Originally Posted by badsac
One of the two mates I was talking about just bought an Orbea from Orange, Anyay had already went up there and had a yarn to them. Seemed like a good bloke willing to do some good deals but he kept on trying to upsell us something chronic. Basically was a Trek and Orbea shop mainly so I wasn't to interested in most of the things he had.
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Orbea make some nice bikes, as do TREK. Maybe you could save a lot of money and buy the TREK 1500, which has Ultegra stuff and Bontrager wheels -- or even look at the Trek 1200 with Shimano 105. The 1500 should be well under $3000 -- the 2003 model is selling down here for about $2300. A mate of mine races 'A' grade on one, and reckons it's "awesome", as he puts it.