How do those compare tot he AW? I had a Shimano 8 speed and a SA 8 speed on various bikes, and was dissatisfied with both, eventually. Do they have the same awful grip shifter the SA 8 speed has? Do they have the old-school chunky feel to them?

I went back to an AG with two cogs and a derailer. I just didn't think the modern convenience was worth loosing the 'feel' of the old style. I REALLY missed the SA trigger shifter.

Also - I distinctly remember comparing my old AW on a steel rim to the Shimano 8 speed on an aluminum rim and being surprised the 8 speed was lighter. Are you sure the new ones are heavier?

Also also: That hub looks great on your Charlton. Easily passes for an AW on first glance.