awesome help guys, i'm just new at the custom road bike game and wasn't really sure where to look. the RS2 group buy is gonna be a great deal i'm just not a huge fan of carbon. gonna check out the stuff you guys listed and maybe something will push the planet x off the top of my list. not in dire need to order the frame but, i just picked up my wheels today but they are nicely home on my allez for the time being.