I'm with you, Pat. When it comes to ride quality, a good steel frame wins hands down, and they aren't really that much heavier. But Sly asked specifically about Al & Ti, and indicated an interest in racing, where grams do count.

My choice involved a number of factors, including weight, corrosion resistance, riding style, and bargains too good to pass up.

P.S. Ever hear of Moses Lake? I lived there for 4 years a looong time ago.

Bob (aging military brat)