actually they didnt.

dude, i've been cruising forums like this before your country picked up its first dial up connection.

i mean, are you honestly standing up for a guy trying to buy a serious track frame - but can't even size himself? as far as i know, you can't buy a pista concept online, so he has to get it from a shop and yet, he still doesn't know what size he is?

this forums if full of goons and trolls, all much bigger fish to fry than i. save yourself the carpal and go troll someone who cares.