I know this is imposs to do without a picture, and I'll post one when I can, but on the chance there are some experts lurking: I bought an "Italian" bike for a co-worker (they TRUST me!) with NO decals, metallic blue paint and yellow highlights in the round holes in the lugs. Looked familiar but I coudn't place where I'd seen lug treatment like that before,I noticed the "Cinelli" fastback seat cluster and the old gears (in my head) began turning. I rode the thing, and that convinced me to buy it: it was sweet, also pretty cheap, with a mis-match of assorted parts: Campy/Galli/dura-Ace, but nothing great or in pristine shape. The workmanship wasn't great either, one of the holes in the top lug was way offcenter, but it seemed like a decent no-name italian ride for my co-worker. Curious as I am, i had to figure out what the heck it is: NO chrome at all, 26.8mm seat post, Campy dropouts and fork tips, feels like SL, only braze-ons are the 3 (!) top tube cable guides...oh and the fork crown is FLAT, not "Cinelli A" and has long reinforcing tangs. My instinct said Windsor Pro, but I've never seen one with no chrome and these short-medium point lugs...It's NOT the cheap Windsor Carrera, my Brother in law had one of them and I remember it well. Were there other Mexinellis besides Windsor? Any Italian Cinelli fakes? It's a decent bike and he's not going to care or appreciate the fine points of it's heritage, anyway...but it kills me not to be able to NAME it! I will have pix, real soon...thanks for your indulgence.