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Old 03-19-08 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
Yep. Just like in a car, a signal is sometimes just an indication of what you are going to do, not always a request for permission.
Ah, but in a car I can edge over, and maintain position with the same motorist and actually negotiate... I can't do that when the motorists are moving past me at 30MPH over my speed when I ride a bike.

Therein lies the big difference... no matter how aggressive I want to be on a bike... it is all too easy for motorists to simply ignore me and hit the gas like they don't even see me.

Of course the usual response is "well just do a ped turn at the next light... " but that assumes there is a light and it is not a T junction that I need to turn at.

This is why I say VC "fails" as on a bike when in the mix of high speed motor traffic... I can be "cut off" and simply not have an option.

Of course you won't see that on a training video... you will only see successful turns and negotiations in lower speed traffic... while the claims are made that "it works everywhere..."
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