Originally Posted by
dan.lavelle
Let's be even more honest: It's the engine that counts, what you ride is a matter of preference. Your motobecane under Boonen, or me on a custom Cyfac blah blah...guess who wins 100% of the time. Not me.
However....comparing a motobecane to a cyfac as far as finish, craftsmanship, and paint is like comparing a Ford Escort to a Formula 1 car. Just ain't cool. Compare them side to side and you'll notice subtle differences that set the frames apart. As a matter of fact the only bike I've seen with better finish was a custom Parlee, and I've taken a close look a many high end frames (Soloist carbon, look 595, S-works, etc)....you should see a Cyfac Gothica up close, imho the best crafted frame money can buy.
EDIT: My Cyfac, the Nerv is NOT $4400 new. Here is the link
http://www.veloeuropa.com/products/framesets/nerv.html
I've seen Cyfac's close up. They're nice. I'm not saying they suck, but I'm just not overwhelmed or anything. Bang for the buck I was just left a bit uninspired is all. My Moto was absolutely in the same league as was my Scott Speedster - both could be had for a lot less which is good if you throw the things into a crit.
