[QUOTE]SCIENCE is done through an easy process, it starts first as a hypothesis (in this case, does tying spokes increase performance).
-then trough experimentation that can be recreated in the same environment for the same duration of time (tying the spokes on YOUR BIKE and riding in a particular manner in a particular place. example: daily commute)
-then through observation (comparing the effects of tied vs non tied on the same commute over the course of a year each)
-Lastly coming to conclusions based on said observations.
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Like I said I agree to disagree. No use flogging a dead horse. Really. You guys like them. Great! I said I like the look. I just don't necessarily believe claims of great utility. But it's a wide world with lots of view points. Please have your own. I like mine.
FAITH is much more simpler for example "this guy Brant says this and he presents it well so I will believe its true". That is what you have done in essence, which is fine I just want to clarify who is coming to the more scientific conclusion and whose conclusions are based more on faith.
Hmm, that's one take on it. Ok. So on the other hand I should say "This guy EatMyA** says it's true so I believe him." Nah, come on. In the complete absence of any supporting data for your view point all we have is Jobst Brandt's much better tested and presented information. It might be flawed. Run a real test, prove him wrong. Now THAT is science.
BTW You NEVER GLUE SPOKE NIPPLES. EVER.
Umm, yeah I know that. Read my post again. I was saying that's a silly thing to do and unnecessary with properly built wheels.
Karl