Originally Posted by rustguard

The problem with flex and carrying loads is that it is sideways, Ive been using a trek 810 for carting loads for a couple of years now. Its a great frame, i wont be able to sell it. the only flex i notice is sideways with really heavy loads on the back in big grocery panniers. If your frame was flexing up and down 1/2" I'd have thought it was turning corners like an articulated tractor.
I'm just building up a shogun now to be my new workhorse, I hope it dos'nt flex anything like that. its cromo tubing whether that includes the rear stays or not i dont know. the frame is not light by my standards, but for what it will be doing this is a plus.

I have read here that the LHT does not have cromo rear stays, is there any truth in this?

booger1 do you know if shogun was ever using cheap material stays on their cromo frames?