Touring on something other that a LHT
07-08-08 | 11:21 PM
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The problem with flex and carrying loads is that it is sideways, Ive been using a trek 810 for carting loads for a couple of years now. Its a great frame, i wont be able to sell it. the only flex i notice is sideways with really heavy loads on the back in big grocery panniers. If your frame was flexing up and down 1/2" I'd have thought it was turning corners like an articulated tractor.
I'm just building up a shogun now to be my new workhorse, I hope it dos'nt flex anything like that. its cromo tubing whether that includes the rear stays or not i dont know. the frame is not light by my standards, but for what it will be doing this is a plus.
I have read here that the LHT does not have cromo rear stays, is there any truth in this?
booger1 do you know if shogun was ever using cheap material stays on their cromo frames?
I'm just building up a shogun now to be my new workhorse, I hope it dos'nt flex anything like that. its cromo tubing whether that includes the rear stays or not i dont know. the frame is not light by my standards, but for what it will be doing this is a plus.
I have read here that the LHT does not have cromo rear stays, is there any truth in this?
booger1 do you know if shogun was ever using cheap material stays on their cromo frames?
Tubing:100% Surly 4130 CroMoly steel. Main triangle double-butted. TIG-welded
07-08-08 | 11:56 PM
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07-09-08 | 12:15 AM
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Trek 520/620/720 Touring
The Trek 720 Touring from the early 80's is still regarded as one of the best touring bikes...if you can find one. I have a 1983 Trek 620 Touring (I couldn't afford the 720 back then) and it's still an excellent touring/commuting bike. The 520 was the most common of the 3 models and can still be found used. It's the model that has evolved into today's Trek 520 touring bike. It was a good bike back then so it's no wonder that it's now one of the most popular touring bikes after 25 years. So, if you're looking for a bike with some vintage class that can still catch the attention of touring enthusiasts and some oohs and ahs from bike shop techies the same age as the bike, check them out at www.vintage-trek.com.
I got it off a friend a few years back and it got me back into riding the offroad trails
07-09-08 | 08:51 AM
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You might want to read my post. I said 'currently available in the US'. Shoguns aren't available in the US and haven't been for a good 15 years. Even when they were, they weren't what I would call a power house, especially when it came to touring bikes. You can find bucket loads of Univega, Miyata, Motobecane, Cannondale, Trek and a few other 'true' touring bikes I've forgetting right now but I can't say that I've ever run across a Shogun 'touring' bike.
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07-09-08 | 10:54 AM
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How would you know?You never even seen one,let alone rode one.I've had enough,I'll post a picture and you guys can yack about it all you want.
Depends on what model you get,as to what it's made out of.Mine's 531 main frame w 4130 seat and chain stays.
Depends on what model you get,as to what it's made out of.Mine's 531 main frame w 4130 seat and chain stays.
07-10-08 | 08:26 AM
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I used to ride a miyata 610 - I loved it, but the issue is that after modernizing these older bikes you end up spending as much as you would on a new bike but with less satisfactory results. I now ride a Jumbo Cannondale T2000, and it's a sheer tank of a bike.
My touring partner had a shogun - the bikes are fine, but I would say in all respects identical to all the other japanese bikes made during the same time.
My touring partner had a shogun - the bikes are fine, but I would say in all respects identical to all the other japanese bikes made during the same time.
07-12-08 | 08:15 AM
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Those Cannondale touring bikes are very nice looking bikes. If I was looking for a new touring bike, I would not rule them out. Just curious, is the entire frame, both frame and fork, aluminum, or do they go with steel forks?
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07-12-08 | 01:24 PM
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Steel fork on the T2 (T800) and aluminum on the T1 (T2000). Although the T1 is more expensive (and the T2000 before it), I think the T2 has a better touring component mix.
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07-12-08 | 02:00 PM
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right now I'm in South Dakota on my way to Oregon on a 1985 Schwinn Voyageur. It's holding up pretty good (knock on wood)
07-12-08 | 02:06 PM
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07-12-08 | 02:23 PM
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Hi. I'm in Delaware.
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naw none right now.
but hey, do you live in Boise, ID? I might be there in a couple weeks. If so you could show me a good place to stealth camp or something.
EDIT: https://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...t=HPIM0166.jpg
but hey, do you live in Boise, ID? I might be there in a couple weeks. If so you could show me a good place to stealth camp or something.
EDIT: https://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...t=HPIM0166.jpg
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07-13-08 | 03:20 AM
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07-13-08 | 04:03 PM
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spelling errors
I like the LHT, but everybody has one. I am a fan of bikes that show the personality of their owner. For me, dropping 1,000 on a bike is too much. I only tour once or twice a year, so buying an expensive bike that is specifically designed for touring that everyone has isn't worth it to me. Has anyone toured on a bike from the 80's? I have been looking at older Peugeots and Nishikis, to me these bikes have more character and style than typical touring bikes. I mean no offense to LHT owners.
and 'style' is spelled f-u-c-t-i-o-n-a-l.
