Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Yeah, I'd probably prefer Ultegra to Veloce, and you might be saving 500 bucks
So I know I should be paying attention to the multitude of Shimano/Campag posts. But is Veloce more equivalent to 105?
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Yeah, but still not as bad as Giants.

Yeah, man the store was pushing giants for all they are worth today. Looks like my mate will be hopping onto an OCR 2 so there'll be another sucker.
Yeah I don't know. Looking at them both I probably do prefer the Blue/Silver of the Trek. It's just that the Lemond has more Carbon Fiber, and isn't the rule whoever has the most Carbon Fiber wins?