I may have mis posted this earlier. I am trying to get a feel for the value of my bike. I was told that it might have just become a collect able. It is a Cherubim pre 3Rensho, hand built by Hitoshi Konno, with all Shimano 60 parts. It is in great shape but has been stored and needs new rubber. I was told that the frame is the value. Thank you I can send pics if that would help