Originally Posted by badsac
Yeah, I have. I was kinda looking at the Chambery because it was within my budget (one model above the Alpe d'Huez). But the Alpe d'Huez is the same frame with 105 components so I'd say I'd be able to get one of those no worries. I like the carbon rear triangle on this years bike. So that might have to be the go. Just save some money and get a 105 series bike. I'm sure that would be well good enough for me.
No worries about asking any questions about what I've been looking at. I'd hate to think I was missing something because I'm a noob fool. So fire em at me.

I thought the 2004 Alpe d'Huez came with the Ultegra Gruppo......and the Tourmalet came with 105 with Ultegra rear derailleur for around $2000.