ok here are the specs:

sticker on tube says arctic custom built by stella made in france
brakes are weinmann 610
simplex derailers and shifters
wheels are textured on the outside edges, aluminum hubs, and the scewers say BlocG
3 piece pinned crank
10 speed gear set
pivo neck
sportex seat
57cm frame

I also have a german kalkhoff 10 speed bike,23" frame, it has a simplex rear derailer,shimano front, chrome fork, 3 piece pinned crank, it has sr neck, polygon brakes, shimano brake levers with plastic finger grips, and suntour shifters attached to the neck, lyotard pedals with chrome clips.

I am looking for a good vintage european bike, I have no idea what either of these are worth, or what these bikes came with , when they were made etc. I'm open to selling or trading them if the right offer comes my way. I currently ride a giant perigee, but I really want one super vintage bike I can ride long distances on. This is a hobby to me, I'm looking to get the best bike i can, i'm not looking to make money.