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Old 09-10-08 | 04:36 PM
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Bikes: BMC, Cannondale, '87 Nishiki Modulus, 3Rensho Keirin

Originally Posted by deadforkinglast
So what? It's made of steel of unknown origin in factories located who knows where. It weighs a ****ing ton (yes, this matters a bit) and IS NOT COMPARABLE TO A ****ING 3RENSHO. No ****ing way.

Anybody can put track ends onto a frame instead of dropouts. Likewise, anyone can simply not drill the fork. That seatpost binder bolt turns me off to the frame, aesthetically and functionally. Those are kludgy and awkward to use, and the fact that the designer would use those instead of a more functional, aesthetically pleasing and lighter bolt tells me that he is not a terribly detail-oriented person, or else has not kept up on where bicycle building has gone in the last 20 years. Sure, this is just a seatpost binder bolt, but the fact that it is designed that way would lead me to suspect that corners have been cut or that close attention has not been paid to other details on the bike. That's enough to make me not trust the build and design quality of the Sparton frames. Maybe I'm just missing out by not being down, but I don't think so.

If you disagree with me and think the Sparton frames are just fine, or even that they're great, fine. Think what you want. No need to speculate ignorantly on my knowledge of bicycles.
I'll agree that the binder bolt on the Sparton on page 1 does look clumsy, but it's a $5-$8 fix for a more modern hex-slotted bolt. If my Sparton comes with that binder, it will be the first thing I change. However, I think the overall build of that bike looks good. If you look at the close-up shots of the frame, the detail is there. The lugs, while not fancy look well done and the brake bridge and chainstay bridges art very artfully done when a builder could just as easily miter and braze in a couple pieces of straight tubing instead.

I think we all read into the OPs post as he is comparing the Sparton to a 3Rensho. In my opinion the Sparton is no worse than anything similar in its price range. I am getting mine with the expectation of what it is. I'll post pics as soon as I get it and have it built up.

OP...get something cheap for now and save your money for the 3Rensho.
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