Old 10-01-08, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
Likely because a couple of the bikes on the OP's list are ridiculously stiff. The good news is the posers that ride wannabee race bikes pay for it on every ride in terms of unnecessary harshness when they don't create enough power to flex a frame that is built for 1000 watts.
I am sure that the vast majority of high quality bikes, some of which are used for racing, are actually ridden by riders who never race them and just enjoy cycling. That is the whole point of professional standards for bicycles used in racing. If the amateur is so inclined he/she can ride that same bicycle that is ridden in the Tour de France. That is certainly good for cycling.

I don't understand the above post's reference to "posers". In the amateur golf world if one sees a golfer out on the course with Titleist of Mizuno golf clubs, one doesn't think there is a "poser". Golfers just look at that person as a "fellow golfer". Think about BMW M3's or M5's that one sees. Those cars are designed to go in excess of 200 mph. One doesn't think of those owners as a "poser".

Rather than belittling a legitimate post. Perhaps a better way to look at it is this. The more cycling enthusiasts there are, the better it is for all cyclists. It will gradually force changes on our transportation network. If someone buys one of the bikes in the original post that is good for all cyclists because it encourages cycling innovation and helps to reduce manufacturing unit costs. Great ideas on high end bicycles filter down to bicycles of all price ranges.

The S2 may have been stiff. According to Cervelo the S3 will have the seat stays similar to the R3. From their web site.
Vertically compliant – Seatstays as thin as on the R3, but rotated 90 degrees and reshaped for aerodynamics. Light, comfortable and aero, the best in aero road bike engineering.

Perfect balance – Aero, light, stiff and comfortable, the S3 works. Several companies make aero road bikes, but only the Cervélo aero road bikes were used extensively at the hilly Olympic road race, a testament to their balanced approach.
According to Competitive Cyclist the S3 has not shipped yet so one cannot know exactly what the new changes in the S3 really mean. However it is my understanding that the R3 has a comfortable ride.

Get a Grip Cycles in Chicago has a 2009 Orca. It is a small frame so it is not going to work for a test ride. Has anyone here done a test ride on the 2009 Orca?

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