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Old 10-04-08, 12:35 PM
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AndyK 
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Just for kix, I took a photo of my nude Cinelli 64 bars. Now I see how the ramp goes almost straight down on these bars! So, maybe a Ritchey Classic bend in "Italian" style wouldn't be as severe as my older Cinelli bars? I really need less reach than 95mm, and would go back to my quill stem, if I can get 25.8 bars into the 26.0 stem without a shim.

Look at these things - like diving off a cliff:

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