Ok, sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I have a question about the Miche bb. I have one with some Miche Advanced cranks, and the cups appear to be in place fine but the spindle looks/feels like it's loose inside the bb shell. I can move the spindle slightly in the bb shell with the cups appearing to be firmly in place still. I'm gonna take this up with my lbs, but what gives? It seems like with everyone else the problem is the cups coming loose instead. I haven't actually taken the cranks off and inspected the bb, I'm at work and don't have the tools at my disposal right now. But has anyone else had this problem?