just to let you guys know, the bottom bracket issue was much easier handled at my lbs for ten bucks. they had the proper tools to take it off and they measured the bottom bracket shell and fitted me up with a newer sealed bracket, which i actually have the tools for. in all, i spent 35 bucks for the new bottom bracket, which was as much if not less than the price of the tools. so i got the old one off, a new bottom bracket, again that i have tools for, and i got it all for the price of the tools to take the old one off. my lbs didnt even have these tools for sale as they said they never sell them. they told me they have them in their chest exclusively to remove old bbs and repair them or completely replace them with sealed bbs which is what they suggest.