Well good news guys. I have some new 27x1-1/4" alloys coming my way. I ordered them from REI since I had a $10 off coupon and get 10% back for being a member next February and free shipping. The shop gave me my wheels back free of charge. He showed me what was going on with them and asked what I wanted to do. The spokes were like wet noodles . I figured the money was better spent on some new alloys, rather than trying to fix up some 30 year old steelies that have some surface rust.