Originally Posted by thylacine
As much as it pains me to sometimes admit it, the Seppos build some great bikes - probably the best bikes in the world at the moment. Most of which absolutely trounce most things coming out of Italy.
OY, I have been waiting patiently for 230 pages to read this.
Thylacine, I'm thinking this should post on the framebuilders list, the CR list and maybe a private e-mail or two. . .
Seriously tho, You are right in the sense that most of the European frames
are just living on their past honors.
Masi is owned by Haro, and for the most part produced in Taiwan.
Faliero is probably spinning in his grave given what they have become.
Colnago had its heyday in the 70's. but make no mistake Ernesto is
a marketing genius, his bikes are good but nowhere near the cache/etc
of his early stuff. De Rosa? Gios? same thing.
There are non seppo builders and they make damned good frames
they just don't have the reputation of say a Richard Sachs or a
Spectrum (Tom Kellogg).
Marty