Well, if you know me and my Goat, you'll know I drank the Surly Kool-Aid and am ridin' the Big Dummy Crazy Train all the way through the coming Apocalypse.

Not 'to'...'through'.

Put another way, I appreciate the depth of time and research from Surly when developing the Dummy with Xtracycle. To me, that's worth something. Haven't heard the same about the competition.

So, yes, vote one for the Grandpappy of dedicated longtail framesets: the Big Dummy.