jesus you guys make so many generalizations. I just bought a bike that came w/ a B17 and I love it. It's the most comfortable saddle I have ever had and I have owned many saddles. Bad for a road bike? Maybe in the sense that it's havy but it's extremely comfortable. Do you guys even know what you're talking about?

I hate the way mine looks, but I keep it on b/c it's comfy.