Originally Posted by Widsith View Post
I've never been called a Fred (at least, not where I could hear it), but wouldn't care if I were. I ride in street clothes on an '80s-vintage Univega road bike and if that makes me look Freddish, so be it. My riding is for my own pleasure, not for making a fashion statement or trying to impress anyone.
Originally Posted by
gcottay
For me, Fred is a positive appellation with the main characteristics well summarized by Widsith.
I would certainly agree that widsith described positive characteristics, but not a Fred.
{edit}... I think I'll back off on pushing my definition of "Fred". While it is a term that I had heard and used for many more years than I (or anyone else) used internet forums, it is clear that others have learned different definitions. So I can learn to live with some of the other definitions. But not the ones that are really defining OCP. That's just wrong.
