man this thread is full of... win.

annnnnyyywaaaayyyyy

instead of fretting over about who makes what frames and where its made and blah blah blah, read the threads about the particular bikes and everyones' review. this forum has provided a wealth of information and testimonials that it just got me SOLD on a kilo tt. research less and buy the damn bike already!!!! its pointless to ask super detailed questions about something you dont have yet. ride it. "learn" it. experience some problems AND THEN post here for solutions. 'cause at least that way, your questions have some experience in them to be appropriate. right?

not being a flamer or anything but i used to be like that--researching the s-h-i-t out of something before i buy it. then i got really really tired of it and told myself, "****, im not going to really learn anything from reading specs and other peoples' experiences. i need to learn it for myself."