I meant both, I think haha. Let me try to clarify... again. My friend rides double straps without toe clips. But then I saw people riding pedals with toe clips and the double straps. So I was wondering if it's all personal preference, or if you're supposed to use the double straps with toe clips, or just the double strap by itself. Hope that clears it up a bit. I think either way I'm going to order a set, just wanted some input before I shell out some money ya know?