Ilikebikes, as to the argument about whether or not they are called bum bars, just because you've never seen "bums" riding like this doesn't negate the fact that the entire rest of the universe calls them bum bars. Now would be a good time to stop being so defensive (seriously, you've responded to every single thing directed at you with either a "nuh-uh" or a "you are.") and just say, "huh, I never knew those were called bum bars. That's funny." Then you don't look like such a tool. Just get with it and stop being so contrary and pissy.