Prostate issue...need saddle advice.
01-10-17, 08:32 PM
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Reviewing all the available data and deciding that PSA testing is not something you want to do is not "burying their head in the sand." It's actively managing one's personal risk vs. reward tradeoff and making your own decisions rather than relying on doctors and a health-care system that may have a completely different agenda than yours.
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PSA is simply another tool that can be used, or not, in the decision making of one's future direction of treatment, or not. Being a fairly non-invasive or expensive test, why one would not take advantage of the test?
01-10-17, 10:05 PM
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Here is what the inventor of the PSA test has to say:
Ablin has been frustrated by the widespread use of the test. Each year, he notes, some 30 million men undergo PSA testing, at a cost of $30 Billion. Yet “the test is hardly more effective than a coin toss. As I’ve been trying to make clear for many years now, P.S.A. testing can’t detect prostate cancer and, more important, it can’t distinguish between the two types of prostate cancer — the one that will kill you and the one that won’t. “
There is certainly nothing wrong with taking the test, but you should think through what you're trying to accomplish and what you would do if it shows an elevated score. And to bring this back to the OP, deciding to give up bicycling to lower your PSA score is just plain silly stupid. It's like giving up exercising because it raises your blood pressure during exercising and will all know that high BP is bad, just like a high score on a PSA test.- Mark
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01-11-17, 03:07 AM
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Certainly there is no great harm in taking the test, lousy as it is. But if you take the test, then this presumes you would go the next step and act upon the results if they show an elevated score. And the next steps ARE invasive, expensive, and have significant side effects. If you are not prepared to do the next steps, then there is no point in taking the test. The PSA test is Pandora's box and you better have a good plan to deal with what you find inside. If you're not willing to do this, just skip it.
Here is what the inventor of the PSA test has to say:
- Mark
Here is what the inventor of the PSA test has to say:
Ablin has been frustrated by the widespread use of the test. Each year, he notes, some 30 million men undergo PSA testing, at a cost of $30 Billion. Yet “the test is hardly more effective than a coin toss. As I’ve been trying to make clear for many years now, P.S.A. testing can’t detect prostate cancer and, more important, it can’t distinguish between the two types of prostate cancer — the one that will kill you and the one that won’t. “
There is certainly nothing wrong with taking the test, but you should think through what you're trying to accomplish and what you would do if it shows an elevated score. And to bring this back to the OP, deciding to give up bicycling to lower your PSA score is just plain silly stupid. It's like giving up exercising because it raises your blood pressure during exercising and will all know that high BP is bad, just like a high score on a PSA test.- Mark
As far as giving up cycling.....that was addressed early on, and by myself, as to a simple refrain from cycling for 5 to 7 days and retest.
As far as prostate issues, I do not know your personal history but mine has included everything from irritation issues to GleasonScore10 prostate cancer. Been there and still am there for the rest of what ever life I have left. My journey has only begun and quite frankly, a blood test is not all that invasive and I just had my monthly PSA test on Monday as per my doctor's orders.
01-11-17, 05:03 PM
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On the subject of "getting older" keep in mind that even current pro-PSA testing guidelines generally do not recommend testing past 75 or so.
- Mark
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01-12-17, 08:38 AM
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Saddles: I ride touring-ish road bikes with saddle and the top of the drop bars roughly level. After a prostate cancer diagnosis and prostatectomy a few years ago I went from using any handy inexpensive saddle (over the years, that includes a few long tours and a dozen or so double centuries usually on padded plastic-based saddles) to split saddles; Koobis on three bikes, one Terry Fly, and one WTB Laser. I tried a couple of Sella An Atomicas and was not happy at all with the stretch factor--wonder what species of road kill their leather comes from!? About noseless saddles; they might not be very good unless you are accustomed to a triathlete-like position. Just looking at one of those ISM units makes my forearms ache.
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01-13-17, 11:27 AM
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VERY INFORMATIVE.......well worth watching......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPwM...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPwM...ature=youtu.be
