SF Cyclists protest crackdown by stopping at every stop sign
08-12-15, 11:57 AM
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That is an astoundingly low number. The bay area has a population between 4.5 and 8.5 Million, depending on what gets included. Two non-participant deaths in five years is a safety record to boast about, not to condemn.
You would be hard pressed to find a means of transportation that can beat those numbers.
You would be hard pressed to find a means of transportation that can beat those numbers.
But that is not the point. the point is those 2 deaths were totally preventable had the cyclist followed the law.
And if I recall right (don't have time to look it up) those deaths reflected a significant percentage of the total pedestrian deaths for each year in SF, 5 to 8% or so.
Every news report about this issue from SF has normal type people reporting close calls with cyclists running stops signs and red lights.
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08-12-15, 12:14 PM
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Some people just rant on the internet without ever bothering to think. The outcome (traffic was slowed, demonstrating to one and all what the downside of a specific law is during an enforcement crackdown) was exactly the point of the protest. How is that not obvious to you?
08-12-15, 12:15 PM
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08-12-15, 01:21 PM
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Some people just rant on the internet without ever bothering to think. The outcome (traffic was slowed, demonstrating to one and all what the downside of a specific law is during an enforcement crackdown) was exactly the point of the protest. How is that not obvious to you?
08-13-15, 11:06 PM
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To quote a post previously
"I dunno, maybe as an "avid cyclist" you ought to learn how to use your equipment. I can downshift simply by twisting my wrist and easing up on the pedals for a second. Something like that might work for you, too."
I am aware that I am supposed to change my gears every time. I am quite skilled at that part. However, because of my fitness level, I like to challenge myself when I cycle. So I usually leave my gears on the heaviest gear, and give myself a proper exercise. Its like telling a fixie cyclist why he prefers to ride a fixie instead of using geared bike. He would say the same thing, its more challenging, more fun, forces the cyclist to be more aware and cautious. I am afraid of using a fixie bike, but I applaud the cyclist who uses fixies for their courage. As for me, I tend to be more aware of the people around me. If there is a pedestrian, I would stop, if there is a car already at the intersection, I would stop. But I will use a rolling stop (stop only if necessary) to go through a stop sign to maintain my momentum.
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"I dunno, maybe as an "avid cyclist" you ought to learn how to use your equipment. I can downshift simply by twisting my wrist and easing up on the pedals for a second. Something like that might work for you, too."
I am aware that I am supposed to change my gears every time. I am quite skilled at that part. However, because of my fitness level, I like to challenge myself when I cycle. So I usually leave my gears on the heaviest gear, and give myself a proper exercise. Its like telling a fixie cyclist why he prefers to ride a fixie instead of using geared bike. He would say the same thing, its more challenging, more fun, forces the cyclist to be more aware and cautious. I am afraid of using a fixie bike, but I applaud the cyclist who uses fixies for their courage. As for me, I tend to be more aware of the people around me. If there is a pedestrian, I would stop, if there is a car already at the intersection, I would stop. But I will use a rolling stop (stop only if necessary) to go through a stop sign to maintain my momentum.
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08-14-15, 11:43 AM
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The only thing that annoys some drivers more than a bicyclist that doesn't obey the laws is one that does.
