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Old 05-12-26 | 03:26 PM
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Running a red light is stupid, dangerous and gives cyclists a bad name. oh and illegal

it is all fun until you are hit, or someone crashes trying to avoid you.

This one should be moved to advocacy and safety
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I start my rides very early in the morning, usually between 5 AM - 5:30 AM, there is very little traffic at this time. When I come to an intersection I slow down and look to the left and right and if I see no vehicles coming I just go through the red or a stop without feeling any guilt or shame. My actions are not putting other people in danger because there are no other people around. When I am bike commuting home on my way from work during afternoon rush hour, it's a totally different scenario and I stop at every red light and every stop sign.
I am pretty sure that every cyclist who posts here has at one time or another broken a traffic law either on a bike or while driving their vehicle.
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This one should be moved to advocacy and safety
Many of the OP’s posts should be moved. Mostly to foo.
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Old 05-12-26 | 04:54 PM
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Running a red light is stupid, dangerous and gives cyclists a bad name. oh and illegal

it is all fun until you are hit, or someone crashes trying to avoid you.
The "Idaho/Cumberbatch Stop" is a law allowing cyclists to slow down and proceed through intersections without a full stop if clear, increasing safety, momentum, and traffic flow. Proven effective since 1982, it has reduced cyclist injuries by 14.5%–23%
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Old 05-12-26 | 05:17 PM
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The "Idaho/Cumberbatch Stop" is a law allowing cyclists to slow down and proceed through intersections without a full stop if clear.
Your ignorance knows no bounds. No states allow rolling through a red light as you described in your first post.
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Old 05-12-26 | 05:26 PM
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Under the "Idaho/Cumberbatch Stop" law, a cyclist can stop at a red light and then roll through it if the way is clear. There is no illegality
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Old 05-12-26 | 05:35 PM
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Under the "Idaho/Cumberbatch Stop" law, a cyclist can stop at a red light and then roll through it if the way is clear. There is no illegality
You need to put a tiny bit of effort into keeping your ******** straight. You bragged of "rolling through reds" because you didn't want to stop at every red light.
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Old 05-12-26 | 05:58 PM
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I definitely do not want to stop and sit idly at a red light if there is no danger in proceeding, hence the advocacy for an "Idaho/Cumberbatch" law in Toronto.

Our biggest beef with Cumberbatch is that he did not stand his ground with the self-anointed policeman.
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Old 05-12-26 | 05:59 PM
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Under the "Idaho/Cumberbatch Stop" law, a cyclist can stop at a red light and then roll through it if the way is clear. There is no illegality
Your words have no meaning.

A car, obeying the law, can stop at a red light and then "roll through" the intersection when the light turns green.

Get a life.


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Old 05-12-26 | 06:10 PM
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As per the law, a cyclist can roll through on the red if all is clear; a car cannot do this.
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Old 05-12-26 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeDeason
As per the law, a cyclist can roll through on the red if all is clear; a car cannot do this.
Rolling through means not stopping first. I think you know that and are just being an… as usual.
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Old 05-12-26 | 06:22 PM
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Rolling through means exactly that, passing through the red. You can stop and then roll through a red (legal under the Idaho/ Cumberbatch” law) or just continue without stopping, technically illegal but semantically similar if there is no danger in proceeding.

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Old 05-12-26 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeDeason
Rolling through means exactly that, passing through the red. You can stop and then roll through a red (legal under the Idaho/ Cumberbatch” law) or just continue without stopping, technically illegal but semantically similar if there is no danger in proceeding.
Is it semantic to point out that you do not comprehend what "semantically" means? Perhaps you meant "effectively" or "functionally"?
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Old 05-12-26 | 07:05 PM
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“Semantically” does work, admittedly “functionally” would have been a more appropriate choice.

One’s grammatical selections may not always be perfect, but the word semantically is used correctly, if somewhat obtusely, in this instance.
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Originally Posted by MikeDeason
Rolling through means exactly that, passing through the red. You can stop and then roll through a red (legal under the Idaho/ Cumberbatch” law) or just continue without stopping, technically illegal but semantically similar if there is no danger in proceeding.
You are uncorrect and just being an … and a bore.
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Old 05-12-26 | 08:00 PM
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In Illinois, in municipalities with fewer than 2,000,000 residents ... (a)​fter two minutes of waiting at a red light, if the signal fails to change because it’s broken or because it doesn’t detect the cyclist’s weight, a cyclist should yield to oncoming traffic with a green signal and then have the right-of-way to pass through, according to state law. (Read more at: https://www.bnd.com/news/state/illin...#storylink=cpy)
The article states that there's no such provision for autos. A few years ago, I studied for the Illinois written driver's license test, and the study guide says the same thing.
Karma is the sum total of what a person has done over their lifetimes. The guy in the clip may have been really, really, really, evil.
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Old 05-12-26 | 08:13 PM
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The article states that there's no such provision for autos. A few years ago, I studied for the Illinois written driver's license test, and the study guide says the same thing.
Karma is the sum total of what a person has done over their lifetimes. The guy in the clip may have been really, really, really, evil.
The guy in the clip just had terrible bike handling skillz. The red light played essentially no part.

Those who believe in karma and other such lore might or might not reap what they sow.
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Old 05-12-26 | 08:31 PM
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Old 05-13-26 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MinnMan
Fraudulent hyperbole on the part of The Telegraph. Helmets indicate both are bicyclists. So no aggressive vehicle against a cyclist or other motorist. And they are talking. Heated, but talking.

Regarding the OP, I see no substantiation to referring to his reckless, lawbreaking action as being named after someone famous, other than making it up out of thin air. That's kinda slanderous, if you ask me, public figure or not.
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Fraudulent hyperbole on the part of The Telegraph. Helmets indicate both are bicyclists. So no aggressive vehicle against a cyclist or other motorist. And they are talking. Heated, but talking.

Regarding the OP, I see no substantiation to referring to his reckless, lawbreaking action as being named after someone famous, other than making it up out of thin air. That's kinda slanderous, if you ask me, public figure or not.
Hyperbole maybe, but you have a too-specific definition of "road rage", it appears. I don't see where the clip indicates that a vehicle was involved. Cyclists were both present on the "road" and both apparently angry.
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Rolling stop=Failure to make a complete stop. Fact! Don't an an ... and a bore if you can help it.
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That’s illegal ^^^^

The “Idaho/Cumberbatch Stop” law states a cyclist must stop, ThEN they can rolll through the red if all is clear.

I vote we rename the law the “Cumberbatch Stop” law. Cumberbatch is more famous than Idaho so it may catch on quicker.
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Old 05-13-26 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeDeason
That’s illegal ^^^^

The “Idaho/Cumberbatch Stop” law states a cyclist must stop, Then they can roll may proceed through the red if all is clear.
FIFY
No comment on whether or not the specific law in your area actually allows cyclists to proceed through a red light at any point, haven't read up on them and never will.
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Rolling stop=Failure to make a complete stop. Fact! Don't an an ... and a bore if you can help it.
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