women drivers have got to be the worst - always freeze up when approaching a cyclist
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Originally Posted by twahl
Sounds like that's what is taught in California. I'm not saying that I don't see people do it often, but that's not what I was taught. Most intersections of any significance around here do have a left turn arrow which usually goes first, before the straight, then the left turners have to yield of green after the arrow.
I'm sorry, but on a bike or in a car, the middle of an intersection is not where I want to be sitting still. Legal or not, I'm not sitting out there.
I'm sorry, but on a bike or in a car, the middle of an intersection is not where I want to be sitting still. Legal or not, I'm not sitting out there.
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Wow! I'm amazed!
As a female driver (of 20 years) who has never been in an accident but admittedly, has 1 speeding ticket to her name (which was dismissed thanks to a fun afternoon spent in driving school), I am simply amazed! But, if I may, I would like to make a counter argument... I think stupid people make stupid drivers. And this will blow your mind but guess what, you can be stupid whether you're a man OR a woman; Isn't that neat!?
Perhaps 75% of all vehicular accidents could be avoided if folks would simply pull their head out of their a** - I would be willing to send a free tube of KY jelly to anyone who requests it to facilitate this process.
The other 25% of vehicular accidents could be avoided by realizing that if you drink alcohol, you should not drive - period! How shockingly simple, yes?
As a female driver (of 20 years) who has never been in an accident but admittedly, has 1 speeding ticket to her name (which was dismissed thanks to a fun afternoon spent in driving school), I am simply amazed! But, if I may, I would like to make a counter argument... I think stupid people make stupid drivers. And this will blow your mind but guess what, you can be stupid whether you're a man OR a woman; Isn't that neat!?
Perhaps 75% of all vehicular accidents could be avoided if folks would simply pull their head out of their a** - I would be willing to send a free tube of KY jelly to anyone who requests it to facilitate this process.
The other 25% of vehicular accidents could be avoided by realizing that if you drink alcohol, you should not drive - period! How shockingly simple, yes?
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Originally Posted by Treespeed
...Here's a nice statistic, not speculation, in California, between 1988 and 1997 men accounted for no less than 87% of all DUI arrests. Nice safe driving behavior. If you're going to start making gender generalizations maybe come better prepared next time.
Finally the below study a worldwide study of gender in automobile fatalities. A little dry, but again it's amazing how real research blows holes in people's anecdotal and biased observations.
All the discussion above has focused on the total numbers killed per year, without regard to category of road user. Although essentially every traffic crash involves at least one driver, Table 3-2 (based on FARS 2001)4 shows that 38% of those killed are not drivers. (Rare crashes with no drivers occur, such as when a child alone in a vehicle sitting in a passenger seat, sets it in motion). The patterns in Table 3-2 change only moderately from year to year (compare with data for 19883(p 45)). However, this pattern should be interpreted to apply specifically to the US. The percent of fatalities that are drivers is much lower in earlier stages of motorization.
Male fatalities in the US in 2001 totaled 28,878, compared to 13,168 female fatalities, giving a male-to-female ratio of 2.19 to 1 The World Health Organization estimates that of 1,194,115 people killed in 2001 in traffic worldwide, 848,234 were male compared to 345,881 female, giving a male-to-female ratio of 2.34 to 1. The predominance of male fatalities in all types of injury deaths is a universal phenomenon, applying to essentially all types of non-disease deaths, including firearm and other homicides, suicide, drowning, and falling. The preponderance of male over female traffic fatalities persists at all ages (Fig. 3-9). This is not exclusively a driver phenomenon. Figure 3-10 shows that 60% of non-driver (passenger, pedestrian, etc.) road user fatalities in the US were male. (Relationships focusing on ages of drivers are given in Chapter 7).
Finally the below study a worldwide study of gender in automobile fatalities. A little dry, but again it's amazing how real research blows holes in people's anecdotal and biased observations.
All the discussion above has focused on the total numbers killed per year, without regard to category of road user. Although essentially every traffic crash involves at least one driver, Table 3-2 (based on FARS 2001)4 shows that 38% of those killed are not drivers. (Rare crashes with no drivers occur, such as when a child alone in a vehicle sitting in a passenger seat, sets it in motion). The patterns in Table 3-2 change only moderately from year to year (compare with data for 19883(p 45)). However, this pattern should be interpreted to apply specifically to the US. The percent of fatalities that are drivers is much lower in earlier stages of motorization.
Male fatalities in the US in 2001 totaled 28,878, compared to 13,168 female fatalities, giving a male-to-female ratio of 2.19 to 1 The World Health Organization estimates that of 1,194,115 people killed in 2001 in traffic worldwide, 848,234 were male compared to 345,881 female, giving a male-to-female ratio of 2.34 to 1. The predominance of male fatalities in all types of injury deaths is a universal phenomenon, applying to essentially all types of non-disease deaths, including firearm and other homicides, suicide, drowning, and falling. The preponderance of male over female traffic fatalities persists at all ages (Fig. 3-9). This is not exclusively a driver phenomenon. Figure 3-10 shows that 60% of non-driver (passenger, pedestrian, etc.) road user fatalities in the US were male. (Relationships focusing on ages of drivers are given in Chapter 7).
Yep, therein lies the problem. Two heads are better than one - except when they're on the same body
Even IF you could argue that women pose as much a danger on the roads as men (and I doubt it), it should at least be reassuring that they probably do so unknowingly or unwillingly, whereas with men you know they're doing it on purpose.