Motorist hits Biker, gets pwned!
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
It's still a bad move to post the alleged perp's plate# you wouldn't want them to get off on a technicality
A witness may recount their story without reservation or prejudice in any manner they choose to. They are, after all, merely making an allegation. They are neither slandering nor expressing a mistruth about a persons' character, beliefs or conduct. In Canada, Canadians are guaranteed the right to the media in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the media includes the internet.
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Originally Posted by Brian
And I see one of my peeps has edited it out, yet the OP posted it again. This does not bode well for the OP. I don't expect to see anything but the letter X next time I check it.
[edit] Ok, there is a chance that Tom might be getting senile. Poor old bugger.
[edit] Ok, there is a chance that Tom might be getting senile. Poor old bugger.
In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have posted the plate until the guy is convicted. Thanks for the Edit Tom.
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Originally Posted by EnigManiac
Posting a plate number on the intenet along with the details of an 'alleged' incident would not be grounds for dismissal on any sort of technicality. Platewire.com would be in court every five minutes if that was the case (and that is a good place to post the details of the incident as well, by the way).
A witness may recount their story without reservation or prejudice in any manner they choose to. They are, after all, merely making an allegation. They are neither slandering nor expressing a mistruth about a persons' character, beliefs or conduct. In Canada, Canadians are guaranteed the right to the media in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the media includes the internet.
A witness may recount their story without reservation or prejudice in any manner they choose to. They are, after all, merely making an allegation. They are neither slandering nor expressing a mistruth about a persons' character, beliefs or conduct. In Canada, Canadians are guaranteed the right to the media in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the media includes the internet.
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Originally Posted by EnigManiac
Posting a plate number on the intenet along with the details of an 'alleged' incident would not be grounds for dismissal on any sort of technicality. Platewire.com would be in court every five minutes if that was the case (and that is a good place to post the details of the incident as well, by the way).
A witness may recount their story without reservation or prejudice in any manner they choose to. They are, after all, merely making an allegation. They are neither slandering nor expressing a mistruth about a persons' character, beliefs or conduct. In Canada, Canadians are guaranteed the right to the media in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the media includes the internet.
A witness may recount their story without reservation or prejudice in any manner they choose to. They are, after all, merely making an allegation. They are neither slandering nor expressing a mistruth about a persons' character, beliefs or conduct. In Canada, Canadians are guaranteed the right to the media in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the media includes the internet.
Originally Posted by Raiyn
How exactly <snip>
Also is it wise to post the license plate of this person? I'd imagine the chances of harassment from visitors here and the legal ramifications involved would be a bad thing for us if something happened
Also is it wise to post the license plate of this person? I'd imagine the chances of harassment from visitors here and the legal ramifications involved would be a bad thing for us if something happened
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
While you were on the phone with the police, did you report the JackAss who was boasting on BF how he keyed a car with his multitool while the driver was not present? I believe you witnessed that crime also.
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Originally Posted by aMull
Crime? Get over yourself.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Shame no one is around to deliberately scratch messages on your bike as a message to see what you think about it. Get over it indeed, Jack!
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Shame no one is around to deliberately scratch messages on your bike as a message to see what you think about it. Get over it indeed, Jack!
You're replying to the wrong person. LOL!
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Originally Posted by Sledbikes
if he did that to my car and i knew about it his bike would need more than a fancy paintjob, more like extreme reassembly involving welders and torches
Are you really that type of person? Think about it for a second. Why would I do that to your car if you didn't do something to me first?
If not, then you have nothing to worry about and you're just talking for the sake of talking.
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Originally Posted by Zeuser
So are you saying that you would drive like a jerk and deliberately provoke a cyclist into doing bad things to you or your car?
Are you really that type of person? Think about it for a second. Why would I do that to your car if you didn't do something to me first?
If not, then you have nothing to worry about and you're just talking for the sake of talking.
Are you really that type of person? Think about it for a second. Why would I do that to your car if you didn't do something to me first?
If not, then you have nothing to worry about and you're just talking for the sake of talking.
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Originally Posted by Zeuser
So are you saying that you would drive like a jerk and deliberately provoke a cyclist into doing bad things to you or your car?
Are you really that type of person? Think about it for a second. Why would I do that to your car if you didn't do something to me first?
If not, then you have nothing to worry about and you're just talking for the sake of talking.
Are you really that type of person? Think about it for a second. Why would I do that to your car if you didn't do something to me first?
If not, then you have nothing to worry about and you're just talking for the sake of talking.
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Originally Posted by Sledbikes
you missed the message i dont hasle anybody when im driving but if im hasled by anybody i dont hesitate to use my freight train horns to hand out a ear splitting headache. i also bought some ear splitting semi trumpets for my cruiser in case any people with cars decide to get froggy. regardless he didnt scratch your bike so why did you find it justified to ruin his paint job that **** isnt cheap
Can we talk about this in the other thread instead? This one is going a bit off topic because of I-like-to-bike and I'd hate to see the message from the original post get lost in a rdiculous flame war that I-like-to-bike started.
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Originally Posted by aMull
Crime? Get over yourself.
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Its a good idea not to post the tag no for two reasons. First, BF could possibly sued for slander. The OP is making a factual statement about an identifiable, the owner of cerrtain tag no committed a crime, a hit and run. Publishers of slander can also be sued for slander.
Second, the posts here could affect the trial. The OP has made some very clear factual allegations on this forum. If the OP were to tetify and the defendant's attorney got the postings from here, the defense attorney could have a field day with the OP if there was the slightest inconsistency with what the OP said at trial and the OP's postings here.
Second, the posts here could affect the trial. The OP has made some very clear factual allegations on this forum. If the OP were to tetify and the defendant's attorney got the postings from here, the defense attorney could have a field day with the OP if there was the slightest inconsistency with what the OP said at trial and the OP's postings here.
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Originally Posted by San Rensho
Its a good idea not to post the tag no for two reasons. First, BF could possibly sued for slander. The OP is making a factual statement about an identifiable, the owner of cerrtain tag no committed a crime, a hit and run. Publishers of slander can also be sued for slander.
Second, the posts here could affect the trial. The OP has made some very clear factual allegations on this forum. If the OP were to tetify and the defendant's attorney got the postings from here, the defense attorney could have a field day with the OP if there was the slightest inconsistency with what the OP said at trial and the OP's postings here.
Second, the posts here could affect the trial. The OP has made some very clear factual allegations on this forum. If the OP were to tetify and the defendant's attorney got the postings from here, the defense attorney could have a field day with the OP if there was the slightest inconsistency with what the OP said at trial and the OP's postings here.
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Originally Posted by Pete Fagerlin
While he apparently doesn't understand the difference between libel and slander, I can see slandering someone on the internet via Youtube, etc.
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Originally Posted by Zeuser
(Moderator note: I'm not sure about potential legal repercussions to Bike Forums concerning posting a plate number especially considering the motorist as of yet hasn't been convicted of anything, so I am deleting it to stay on the conservative side here. -Tom Stormcrowe)
Administrator's note. Tom isn't old enough to be senile, yet I had to delete the plate again. There will not be a third time. - Brian
Administrator's note. Tom isn't old enough to be senile, yet I had to delete the plate again. There will not be a third time. - Brian
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You really are idealistic--- in the US, unless there are injuries requiring medical attention, or a few thousand dollars in property damages, there are rarely any charges for such "accidents." They are generally not considered hit and run--- and a citizen witnessing the accident doesn't mean much.
Originally Posted by AEO
I go by there sometimes with my car. I can see the logic in the car driver's head... "run for the highway, they can't catch me there". But never thought to consider any witnesses.
He'll probably get a slapped with a really hefty fine and criminal charge even though no one was injured. We've had a slur of hit and runs this year and last year and OPP has to be getting tired of these runners.
Good thing no one was seriously hurt.
He'll probably get a slapped with a really hefty fine and criminal charge even though no one was injured. We've had a slur of hit and runs this year and last year and OPP has to be getting tired of these runners.
Good thing no one was seriously hurt.
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Originally Posted by filtersweep
You really are idealistic--- in the US, unless there are injuries requiring medical attention, or a few thousand dollars in property damages, there are rarely any charges for such "accidents." They are generally not considered hit and run--- and a citizen witnessing the accident doesn't mean much.
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Originally Posted by filtersweep
You really are idealistic--- in the US, unless there are injuries requiring medical attention, or a few thousand dollars in property damages, there are rarely any charges for such "accidents." They are generally not considered hit and run--- and a citizen witnessing the accident doesn't mean much.
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Originally Posted by Zeuser
Well, they must be taking it seriously since they called me to go by and give a written testimony. Oh... and this is Canada so our cops aren't as busy as they are south of the border so they have more time to deal with these things. Mississauga also happens to boast the lowest crime rate of any major city in Canada so you know they'll be doing something about this.
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Hit and run means jack squat in CA. That is why it is up so bad now. Areas like Escondido it is almost normal. If the driver stays he might be deported if any outstanding issues, so they run.
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Originally Posted by richardmasoner
Some people might argue for ethical reasons to censor license plate numbers, but there's absolutely no legal reason at all to censor license plate numbers. In my area, the Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition and the San Francisco Peninsula Bicycle & Pedestrian Coalition regularly publish "driver advisory" notices complete with plate numbers, vehicle description, and even driver name and address if we can get it. They've been doing this for years. California is filled with litigation-happy people, but these groups don't perceive any risk in these advisories.
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We may be a bit on the cautious side, but publishing plates really serves no purpose here. And sadly, it's been far more common for us to see the words "If you see this ****ing ******* of a ****" accompanying the plate and vehicle description, along with suggestions of actions that should be taken against the driver. Not really what we want to promote.
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Originally Posted by Zeuser
That happened hours afterwards. And as far as I'm concerned, she deserved it.
Of course.. that's not your decision to make unless you're on the jury. A crime is a crime.