Cyclist shot in face, police do nothing.
11-29-07, 08:45 PM
#26
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,974
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,536 Times
in
1,045 Posts
11-30-07, 12:26 AM
#27
livin' the nightmare
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: desert
Posts: 491
Bikes: '81 Centurion SS coversion, other ****
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
@ whoever: No, your lycra and expensive bike don't make you more of a "cyclist" than anyone else, in the same way a fire suit and Ferrari don't make you more of a "motorist" than any other drivers. Enthusiast? Maybe. "Cyclist"? No.
11-30-07, 01:24 AM
#28
+1
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 30
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
11-30-07, 01:31 AM
#29
lunatic fringe
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Miles from Nowhere, Columbia County, OR
Posts: 1,111
Bikes: 1980 Schwinn World Sport, 1982 Schwinn Super Le Tour, 1984 (?) Univega Single Speed/Fixed conversion, Kogswell G58 fixed gear, 1987 Schwinn Super Sport
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Is that a real cyclist or a Sears cyclist?
11-30-07, 09:46 AM
#31
Senior Member
...but he's on a bike...
What about the deadbeat dad who drives a car. Is he not a motorist? Who's to tell?
So, answer me this. You see a cyclist... er... scratch that... a person who happens to be riding a bicycle... off in the distance. How exactly do you ascertain his lifestyle from just seeing this person? I'm confused... Hence all the ellipses...
So complicated...
__________________
Cat 2 Track, Cat 3 Road.
"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
Cat 2 Track, Cat 3 Road.
"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
11-30-07, 09:50 AM
#32
Senior Member
Let's take a poll here. Who here who doesn't consider Mr. King a cyclist is middle class and white? Calling a spade a spade is different than having a hang-up about race.
__________________
Cat 2 Track, Cat 3 Road.
"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
Cat 2 Track, Cat 3 Road.
"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
11-30-07, 10:07 AM
#33
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 11,375
Bikes: '08 Surly Cross-Check, 2011 Redline Conquest Pro, 2012 Spesh FSR Comp EVO, 2015 Trek Domane 6.2 disc
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
6 Posts
Somebody who ends up on a bike due to a court order which removes them from their car may not be an intentional cyclist, but they're still a cyclist. If/when they get their license or car back, the cycling habit probably won't stick.
It's like someone forced into rehab by court order. They might dry out for a few months, but it's pretty likely that they'll end up falling back into their old habits again.
It's like someone forced into rehab by court order. They might dry out for a few months, but it's pretty likely that they'll end up falling back into their old habits again.
__________________
"I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
- Mandi M.
"I feel like my world was classier before I found cyclocross."
- Mandi M.
11-30-07, 10:10 AM
#34
Arizona Dessert
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 15,030
Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix, Lemond Poprad. Retired: Jamis Sputnik, Centurion LeMans Fixed, Diamond Back ascent ex
Mentioned: 76 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5345 Post(s)
Liked 2,169 Times
in
1,288 Posts
A cyclist is anyone who is riding a bicycle.
However when not riding a bicycle, some folks are still considered or called or self-referred to as cyclists. This later 'label' can be debated, the former definition can not.
Al
However when not riding a bicycle, some folks are still considered or called or self-referred to as cyclists. This later 'label' can be debated, the former definition can not.
Al
11-30-07, 10:24 AM
#35
Senior Member
Do we know where Cheney was when Rodney was shot?
11-30-07, 11:37 AM
#36
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,974
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,536 Times
in
1,045 Posts
11-30-07, 12:09 PM
#37
Dances With Cars
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 10,527
Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I'd say for purposes of BF discussions about "We cyclists" and "Us cyclists" a cyclist usually refers to a white college grad (or college student) in a white collar job who is a cycling enthusiast, typically a member of a cycling club made of similar comrades. Of course there are exceptions but don't appear to be many.
A cyclist, to me, is anyone that generally uses their bike for transportation/recreation/ or health reasons. This would incl. anyone who needs to ride all the time for DUIs become unwilling cyclists, but cyclists none-the-less. They still get driven up on from behind, and the driver has no way of knowing what level of rider they are approaching, so it really matters not. If one rides a bike then in that moment one is a cyclist. Same as someone sitting drunk behind the wheel, mentally debating driving home with the keys in the ignition, by law is a drunk driver.
11-30-07, 12:29 PM
#38
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,974
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,536 Times
in
1,045 Posts
hmm I'll have to disagree for the block Pat. Waaay too much racial and econ assumption for my Canadian blood. My rides are filled with ppls from all cultures/backgrounds and economic statuses. America might be lilly white still but, that simply isn't an accurate reflection of the world around you. This includes the world's ppls on this board as well, many I know here don't fit the description above AT ALL.
A cyclist, to me, is anyone that generally uses their bike for transportation/recreation/ or health reasons. This would incl. anyone who needs to ride all the time for DUIs become unwilling cyclists, but cyclists none-the-less. They still get driven up on from behind, and the driver has no way of knowing what level of rider they are approaching, so it really matters not. If one rides a bike then in that moment one is a cyclist. Same as someone sitting drunk behind the wheel, mentally debating driving home with the keys in the ignition, by law is a drunk driver.
A cyclist, to me, is anyone that generally uses their bike for transportation/recreation/ or health reasons. This would incl. anyone who needs to ride all the time for DUIs become unwilling cyclists, but cyclists none-the-less. They still get driven up on from behind, and the driver has no way of knowing what level of rider they are approaching, so it really matters not. If one rides a bike then in that moment one is a cyclist. Same as someone sitting drunk behind the wheel, mentally debating driving home with the keys in the ignition, by law is a drunk driver.
11-30-07, 12:34 PM
#39
Dances With Cars
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 10,527
Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Whew...nice save...glove side. 
11-30-07, 04:21 PM
#40
Senior Member
Now THAT"S funny !!!!!
Reports today speculate that it was part of a domestic dispute. He probably did not get injured this time after throwing a fully grown woman six feet, or maybe he did, just not a female CHP officer.
Reports today speculate that it was part of a domestic dispute. He probably did not get injured this time after throwing a fully grown woman six feet, or maybe he did, just not a female CHP officer.
11-30-07, 08:13 PM
#41
lunatic fringe
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Miles from Nowhere, Columbia County, OR
Posts: 1,111
Bikes: 1980 Schwinn World Sport, 1982 Schwinn Super Le Tour, 1984 (?) Univega Single Speed/Fixed conversion, Kogswell G58 fixed gear, 1987 Schwinn Super Sport
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
I heard he was shot by Bobby Knight.
11-30-07, 09:12 PM
#43
Been Around Awhile
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,974
Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,536 Times
in
1,045 Posts
11-30-07, 11:20 PM
#45
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Between the mountains and the lake.
Posts: 16,681
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
A cyclist is anyone riding a bicycle, for whatever reason. No other qualifications required, despite the elitist blatherings of people on this forum.
11-30-07, 11:51 PM
#47
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Between the mountains and the lake.
Posts: 16,681
Bikes: 8 bikes - one for each day of the week!
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
And would he have considered himself a cyclist?
12-01-07, 06:37 AM
#48
Sucks at loife
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lundun Tahn
Posts: 380
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
12-01-07, 04:10 PM
#49
Devilmaycare Cycling Fool
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wynnum, Australia
Posts: 3,819
Bikes: 1998 Cannondale F700
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Why is there so much anxiety that unsavoury characters might be called cyclists? I certainly don't feel any guilt by association.