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3alarmer 02-28-14 08:15 PM

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...I wear one because it is a convenient place to mount my fox ears.

........................http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=366518

I'm trying to fool people into thinking I'm an endangered species. Which is not really a lie.

........who are the usual suspects ? Is there a list ?

mconlonx 03-01-14 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 16537052)

Bet you look sex-ay in that thing.

So, Furry, huh...? Hey, whatevs -- fly your freak-flag proud, bro.

bykemike 03-01-14 07:08 AM

Reading helmet threads makes my head hurt

3alarmer 03-01-14 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 16537812)
Bet you look sex-ay in that thing.

So, Furry, huh...? Hey, whatevs -- fly your freak-flag proud, bro.

...you'll have to trust me. It's a head turner.

mconlonx 03-01-14 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 16538268)
...you'll have to trust me. It's a head turner.

Yes, but do you ever ask yourself, "Is it the furry ears? ...or the ass-less chaps?"

3alarmer 03-01-14 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 16538951)
Yes, but do you ever ask yourself, "Is it the furry ears? ...or the ass-less chaps?"

...never. I know that I am a beautiful person. The furry ears and ass-less chaps simply show that off to the admiring throng.

Six jours 03-01-14 08:13 PM

And now I have to poke out my mind's eye.

MMACH 5 03-01-14 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Six jours (Post 16539832)
And now I have to poke out my mind's eye.

Pass that ice-pick around, when you're done.

3alarmer 03-01-14 11:33 PM



...I wonder what Dr Freeman's position was on helment use ?

mconlonx 03-02-14 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 16540233)


...I wonder what Dr Freeman's position was on helment use ?

Probably: Wear a helmet, leave the brain damage to professionals.

3alarmer 03-02-14 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 16535750)
Which helmets are most effective and why?

http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com...51557919143533 because people won't **** with me.

rydabent 03-03-14 07:57 AM

Lets do a reality check here after over 7000 entries. To sum it up on one side we have a few very vocal anti helmet posters. All they have is a bunch of questionable research papers, and their own bias and personal opinions. On the other side we have cyclist like me that report real life accidents where helmets have saves us from injury.

IMO real life situations with out a doubt trump theory and bias. Ride safe and wear a helmet.

howsteepisit 03-03-14 08:08 AM

Rydabent -Do you tell other people what they should do in other areas of your life too, endlessly harping? Man you are annoying! Nothing better than some guy who feels like its his mission in life to order other people about. Maybe you could get a soapbox and proclaim your truths from the town square!

MMACH 5 03-03-14 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 16543451)
...on one side we have a few very vocal anti helmet posters. All they have is a bunch of questionable research papers, and their own bias and personal opinions.
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ryd, this is absolutely a two way street. The questionable research papers and bias are on both sides of this issue.


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 16543451)
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On the other side we have cyclist like me that report real life accidents where helmets have saves us from injury.

IMO real life situations with out a doubt trump theory and bias. Ride safe and wear a helmet.

I do wear a helmet anytime I get on my bicycle. However, the shear numbers of "real life" crashes that DON'T involve a helmet or head strike go very much against this being viable evidence used to "trump" anything. It's a personal preference and applies only to me.

Six jours 03-03-14 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 16543451)
Lets do a reality check here after over 7000 entries. To sum it up on one side we have a few very vocal anti helmet posters. All they have is a bunch of questionable research papers, and their own bias and personal opinions. On the other side we have cyclist like me that report real life accidents where helmets have saves us from injury.

IMO real life situations with out a doubt trump theory and bias. Ride safe and wear a helmet.

Dear Rydabent:

Please stop trying to help.

Sincerely,

Every pro-helmet poster on the thread.

3alarmer 03-03-14 06:23 PM

.. [MENTION=191655]rydabent[/MENTION] does a reality check. #oxymoron

rydabent 03-03-14 09:59 PM

Gee-------------------my last post must have been too logical since it raised such hate and discontent from the anti helmet crowd. I guess maybe the truth hurts.

Again I am against MLHs, and I do not demand that everyone wear a helmet. I only contend that smart people do.

3alarmer 03-04-14 12:56 AM

http://etiquettehope.weebly.com/uplo...86974_orig.jpg see, for example:


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 16546103)
my last post must have been too logical


rydabent 03-04-14 07:56 AM

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Try addressing the thread instead of posting personal attacks. On the internet forums that I am on, I have found that people that have no logical stand usually just post personal attacks.

When people post personal attacks it is an admission that they have lost the argument!!!!

mconlonx 03-04-14 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 16543451)
Lets do a reality check here after over 7000 entries. To sum it up on one side we have a few very vocal anti helmet posters. All they have is a bunch of questionable research papers, and their own bias and personal opinions. On the other side we have cyclist like me that report real life accidents where helmets have saves us from injury.

IMO real life situations with out a doubt trump theory and bias. Ride safe and wear a helmet.

We also have quite a few realistic people who post here and don't firmly fall into either a pro-helmet or anti-helmet camp. Some wear helmets, some don't.

The pro-helmet contingent also post questionable research papers based on their own bias and personal opinions.

No one has any idea in any given real life accident if a helmet did or did not save them from injury. And your statement to the contrary is the basic logical flaw most unreasonable pro-helmet members bring to this discussion.

Real life situations contribute to theory and bias; without real life situations to back you up, theory and bias fall apart. On both sides.

Ride safe whether you wear a helmet or not -- helmets have very little to do with riding safe.

350htrr 03-04-14 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 16547011)
We also have quite a few realistic people who post here and don't firmly fall into either a pro-helmet or anti-helmet camp. Some wear helmets, some don't.

The pro-helmet contingent also post questionable research papers based on their own bias and personal opinions.

No one has any idea in any given real life accident if a helmet did or did not save them from injury. And your statement to the contrary is the basic logical flaw most unreasonable pro-helmet members bring to this discussion.

Real life situations contribute to theory and bias; without real life situations to back you up, theory and bias fall apart. On both sides.

Ride safe whether you wear a helmet or not -- helmets have very little to do with riding safe.


Oh,? I think most people who had bounced their head off the pavement wearing a helmet would CERTAINLY say that the helmet did save them SOME injury, and it almost CERTAINLY did. Unfortunately they usually say something like it saved my life which gets scoffed at as it also almost CERTAINLY didn't, in most cases it probably saved a bump, a gash, or some road rash anyways, maybe a concussion... JMO

mconlonx 03-04-14 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by 350htrr (Post 16547214)
Oh,? I think most people who had bounced their head off the pavement wearing a helmet would CERTAINLY say that the helmet did save them SOME injury, and it almost CERTAINLY did. Unfortunately they usually say something like it saved my life which gets scoffed at as it also almost CERTAINLY didn't, in most cases it probably saved a bump, a gash, or some road rash anyways, maybe a concussion... JMO

"Almost" certainly saved people from injury. "Probably" saved a bump, gash, or some road rash. "Maybe" [mitigated] a concussion.

Or not.

You don't know. They don't know. No one knows. Everyone will state something wrong as fact, however.

350htrr 03-04-14 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 16547374)
"Almost" certainly saved people from injury. "Probably" saved a bump, gash, or some road rash. "Maybe" [mitigated] a concussion.

Or not.

You don't know. They don't know. No one knows. Everyone will state something wrong as fact, however.


Yes, I used all those words on purpose... As I can't "prove" my statement, doesn't mean I am wrong on any of those "facts to me statements" ;) as it can't be proven otherwise either... :)

3alarmer 03-04-14 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 16546786)
3

Try addressing the thread instead of posting personal attacks. On the internet forums that I am on, I have found that people that have no logical stand usually just post personal attacks.

When people post personal attacks it is an admission that they have lost the argument!!!!


note: I'm talking to a guy who cannot follow the conversation to the point where he thinks I'm anti helment.
Even though I've clearly posted at least two photos of my furry eared helment. I'm not attacking you, I'm mocking you.

I know the difference is subtle, but I thought it was worth mentioning.............!!!!

3alarmer 03-04-14 11:30 AM

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...you're right though, it benefits the world little to continue to torment a querulous old man. So long, take care of yourself.


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