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RazrSkutr 07-09-13 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by License2Ill (Post 15830676)
If the brakes were absorbing energy, they could return it back to my machine. Oh well, I guess I don't need them.

Yes, you're right they could, if you had a way of storing it instead of, in the case of brakes dissipating the energy through heat, or in helmets physically deforming.

I think you've just invented the regenerative helmet.

I look forward to your brochure.

3alarmer 07-09-13 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by RazrSkutr (Post 15830652)
Please do tell me more... and do you have any interesting perpetual motion devices?

.......one has already been invented, amigo. You're one mysterious source of the energy tapped here in the A+S Perpetual Motion Helment Thread.

I-Like-To-Bike 07-09-13 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 15829765)
FWIW, I don't think your giant brush is that bad of an idea. Most of the guys left here are basically here
to voice the same points and opinions they've been posting here for quite a while now, and I notice the usual
suspects appear every time someone new shows up to point out the logical fallacies regularly espoused
by the helmentless. When you carry on a crusade long enough, most of the more sensible tend to drift away.

At risk of stating the obvious, this thread is now on page 232, and guys like i like to bike and razr skut are still
happily trolling away at every appearance of a logical pro helmet position, while giving voice to their absolute
dedication to the thread's "progress". It's inspirational, in an obsessive compulsive sorta way.

"The logical fallacies regularly espoused by the helmentless" vice the "logical pro helmet position"
This is what you emerged from Trollheim for, to break this thread down with your "obvious" simplicity? :lol:

Better yet, you of all people, have the nerve to dis anyone as a "troll" because their posts don't line up with your version of "obvious". :rolleyes:

3alarmer 07-09-13 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 15829765)

At risk of stating the obvious, this thread is now on page 232, and guys like i like to bike and razr skut are still
happily trolling away at every appearance of a logical pro helmet position, while giving voice to their absolute
dedication to the thread's "progress". It's inspirational, in an obsessive compulsive sorta way.


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 15831582)
"The logical fallacies regularly espoused by the helmentless" vice the "logical pro helmet position"
This is what you emerged from Trollheim for, to break this thread down with your "obvious" simplicity? :lol:

Better yet, you of all people, have the nerve to dis anyone as a "troll" because their posts don't line up with your version of "obvious". :rolleyes:

.....I know that this is probably too fine a point for you, but when you change the article from "a" to "the",
it changes significantly the meaning of the statement. Since you are quoting me, I take exception to it.

As for your last sentence, ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of the logically unarmed.

Nice use of the emoticon. I really :love: emoticons..........http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...s/confetti.gif

I-Like-To-Bike 07-09-13 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 15831639)
.....I know that this is probably too fine a point for you, but when you change the article from "a" to "the",
it changes significantly the meaning of the statement. Since you are quoting me, I take exception to it.

Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike: "The logical fallacies regularly espoused by the helmentless" vice the "logical pro helmet position"
"Quote marks" indicate a quote, look it up.

3alarmer 07-09-13 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 15831639)
.....I know that this is probably too fine a point for you, but when you change the article from "a" to "the",
it changes significantly the meaning of the statement. Since you are quoting me, I take exception to it.

As for your last sentence, ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of the logically unarmed.

Nice use of the emoticon. I really :love: emoticons..........http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...s/confetti.gif


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 15831702)
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike: "The logical fallacies regularly espoused by the helmentless" vice the "logical pro helmet position"
"Quote marks" indicate a quote, look it up.

............see, I knew it was too fine a point for you.http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...s/laughing.gif

cranky old dude 07-09-13 06:08 PM

Going topless
 
On my little neighborhood 'Roll-about' this evening I left the helmet on the shelf. I figure at 6 to 8 MPH it would be hard, even for me, to fall off my Volae Tour seriously enough to do any damage. (Not being a complete fool though I did wear my gloves to protect my hands in case I tipped over.)

It felt nice to be free!!

p.s. It also felt a little bit naughty. :o

Anyone else care to confess?

DnvrFox 07-09-13 06:38 PM

I ride to the mail box topless. All the neighbor ladies squeal and swoon. It is .1 mile each way.

brianmcg123 07-09-13 06:54 PM

How did you not end up brain damaged. Your a terrible example for kids. Stop the insanity.

JanMM 07-09-13 08:09 PM

Saw a middle aged fellow riding topless except for a heart rate monitor chest strap a few years ago. Wasn't a pretty sight. Since I got my HRM this year I've threatened my wife that I might go for that look.
I would wear a helmet, of course.

climberguy 07-09-13 08:16 PM

Some people give money to the homeless; I give money to the topless. I consider it a public service, since they have no visible means of support. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

BigAura 07-09-13 08:24 PM

Intuitively, I'd say the increased risk of death for a 50+ riding without a helmet is considerably less than a 20-something. I too ride helmet-less, at times --> cooler, freer, and more fun.

GlennR 07-09-13 08:28 PM

Yesterday I went for a walk along a popular bike trail. There was a family of 4 with 2 little ones coming at me. They were all barely moving when the 6 year old wobbled the handle bars went perpendicular to the frame and she flopped face first over the handle bars. I ran over and helped the mom check her out. Both knees were scraped and I told her mom to check her teeth... they were fine. Then the mom took the helmet off and she had a bump the side of a chicken egg on her forehead. Even though she had a helmet on it was tilted back and her forehead took a beating.

Don't be foolish.. .wear a helmet. Even riding a bike slow is not like walking down the street.

sail 07-09-13 08:36 PM

I'll leave it home occasionally for a putz on the folder, but only if my wife isn't around. She's on the "Brain Injury Alliance of Iowa" board.

Six jours 07-09-13 08:42 PM

I rode and raced back when nobody wore a hardshell helmet. It was a pretty safe activity back then.

Now, of course, cycling without a helmet is terribly dangerous and anyone who tries it deserves what he gets.

I understand that in some quarters this is considered "progress".

MinnMan 07-09-13 08:44 PM

You don't only wear a helmet in case you do something stupid or careless. A few days ago in my neighborhood a helmetless (not topless) young woman was killed by a hit and run driver who ran a stop sign....

Six jours 07-09-13 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by MinnMan (Post 15832996)
You don't only wear a helmet in case you do something stupid or careless. A few days ago in my neighborhood a helmetless (not topless) young woman was killed by a hit and run driver who ran a stop sign....

Stories of helmeted cyclists killed by careless drivers are not terribly uncommon. Expecting a few ounces of Styrofoam to protect you from thousand of pounds of onrushing steel is... optimistic.

mkane77g 07-09-13 08:59 PM

Posers ride topless. Wear a helmet. It could save your better 1/2 lot's of grief.

DnvrFox 07-09-13 09:00 PM

:bang:

:deadhorse2:

:popcorn

wphamilton 07-09-13 09:25 PM

Yesterday, a quick trip to the store and boy it felt good to leave that silly helmet at home.

overthehillmedi 07-09-13 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by DnvrFox (Post 15833049)
:bang:

:deadhorse2:

:popcorn

You forgot the beer so here you go, :beer: :beer:

DnvrFox 07-09-13 09:35 PM

"And that brain bucket you own? It was never designed to prevent concussions."


Some (perhaps) surprising information about helmets;

jyl 07-09-13 10:15 PM

Not surprising. Helmets are designed to protect against major, devastating head injury - fractures and the like. The foam has to be hard enough for those impacts. For smaller impacts, that cause concussion, the foam is too hard. It is a design trade off.

I slipped on a wet floor once, fell on my back, hit my head, was knocked unconscious and woke with EMTs over me. I was traveling zero mph. So slow speed doesn't mean you won't slam your head into the ground.

downtube42 07-09-13 10:27 PM

In the middle of a 1000k brevet last week, on a hot afternoon in North Carolina, I was thinking. Dangerous to do while riding, but for 1000k, what else is there to do? I was thinking about my predicament - slavered in sunscreen while wearing damp clothes from an earlier thunderstorm. I saw this guy mowing with a big tractor, the kind with a roof over the driver. And I was thinking, why don't I have a roof? Instead of going topless and having to apply a fresh layer of sunscreen every few hours, I could have a roof protecting me from the elements. That would be awesome.

billydonn 07-09-13 10:28 PM

There's better ways to trigger those naughty feelings, IMO.:)


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