Bicycle rider traffic video?
02-22-12, 12:29 PM
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The only way a driver can prevent a pushy motorist from "cutting back in", is to stay mere inches form the car ahead, moving up any time there is the smallest gap. Sorry, but I will never drive like that. If someone wants to cut in that badly, they can do so in front of me easily. There will be no close calls or crashes, and I will still get to my destination stress and incident free. Isn't that the goal?
As far as letting folks merge in front of you easily... you may find you never go anywhere here.
Being polite and taking your turn, but not being a push over (for the next 20 vehicles) is the key to operating in traffic here.
02-22-12, 02:11 PM
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The little silver car did some wrong things, but the cyclist was also in the wrong by coming up the driver's side of the silver car. In that situation you should pick a lane and stay in the middle of that lane. He rode up very close to the driver's side of the silver car when it was obvious that the silver car was changing lanes.
Made cyclist look really bad.
Made cyclist look really bad.
02-22-12, 02:53 PM
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Enough to keep these guys in business:
https://www.brickhousesecurity.com/ca...ce-system.html
And a scan through the number of reviews for dashcams listed on this page adds another hundred:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...words=dash+cam
But a quick search suggests that regular non-LE people use them.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+cars+dash+cams&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US
fficial&client=firefox-a
You know people, they'll find any reason to buy something fancy for their cars...
https://www.brickhousesecurity.com/ca...ce-system.html
And a scan through the number of reviews for dashcams listed on this page adds another hundred:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...words=dash+cam
But a quick search suggests that regular non-LE people use them.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+cars+dash+cams&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US
fficial&client=firefox-aYou know people, they'll find any reason to buy something fancy for their cars...
In eastern Europe and Asia, it's very common for people to use dash cameras because accidents happen fairly frequently.
My main point still stands. Either that whole incident was staged; or that cyclist has absolutely zero situational awareness; and is a hot-headed jerk.
02-22-12, 04:00 PM
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CB, mirrors are REAL easy to break off; my 14-y-o daughter was playing in our driveway one evening last fall, after dark, and was running up & down our driveway. She took her mom's mirror right off her truck with her shoulder, barely felt it, no bruising.
To the doubters: staged or not, the bike made the lane change first; Silverdoosh just decided he/she was GONNA make that lane change, didn't care, even AFTER the rider made his presence known, the car kept pulling up.
To the doubters: staged or not, the bike made the lane change first; Silverdoosh just decided he/she was GONNA make that lane change, didn't care, even AFTER the rider made his presence known, the car kept pulling up.
02-22-12, 04:32 PM
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True. The cyclist did cut-off the car that was already signaling and attempting to make the lane change.
02-22-12, 04:56 PM
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Funny, I didn't see a signal. Not until AFTER the bike changed lanes.
And, FTR, a signal doesn't just mean you can move over; you have to be sure your way is clear, first.
And, FTR, a signal doesn't just mean you can move over; you have to be sure your way is clear, first.
02-22-12, 05:04 PM
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And BEFORE the bike passed.
And, FTR, a pass cannot be made until the way is clear. Means the car in front is not already partially in the lane.
And, FTR, a pass cannot be made until the way is clear. Means the car in front is not already partially in the lane.
02-22-12, 05:09 PM
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Y'know what, I'm done, Mr. Trifle; you can flap all you want, last word doesn't equal right word. We could go back and forth, neither convincing the other, except I'm bored already.
Guess it's just good that we live in separate cities; I WOULD be on the bike, car-free for 7+ years, and if you'd do that around me, we'd have another video.
Ignore.
Guess it's just good that we live in separate cities; I WOULD be on the bike, car-free for 7+ years, and if you'd do that around me, we'd have another video.
Ignore.
02-22-12, 07:30 PM
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Thanks for the info from you and Genec. My last car was a small Saturn for which the side mirror covers were part of the solid plastic door mold. No way a cyclist could knock that off.
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02-22-12, 10:41 PM
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Y'know what, I'm done, Mr. Trifle; you can flap all you want, last word doesn't equal right word. We could go back and forth, neither convincing the other, except I'm bored already.
Guess it's just good that we live in separate cities; I WOULD be on the bike, car-free for 7+ years, and if you'd do that around me, we'd have another video.
Ignore.
Guess it's just good that we live in separate cities; I WOULD be on the bike, car-free for 7+ years, and if you'd do that around me, we'd have another video.
Ignore.
02-22-12, 11:13 PM
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Well it was the only element of the original argument that could be met with actual data. Subjective perspectives...well, just gotta let those fall flat. Nothing one can do with those.
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02-23-12, 10:14 AM
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Come drive in CA where "safe following distance" is an invitation for everyone to just fill right in... Here merge lanes are the norm on freeways... and you are supposed to "zipper" merge... but some folks just don't allow room, where as others squeeze past and try to merge after all the people who have patiently waited their turn. Extremes exist on both ends of the scale (including motorists that use the bike lanes to bypass patient motorists, and then try to squeeze in).
As far as letting folks merge in front of you easily... you may find you never go anywhere here.
Being polite and taking your turn, but not being a push over (for the next 20 vehicles) is the key to operating in traffic here.
As far as letting folks merge in front of you easily... you may find you never go anywhere here.
Being polite and taking your turn, but not being a push over (for the next 20 vehicles) is the key to operating in traffic here.
The incident posted in the OP will never happen to me, not on my bike and not in my car.
02-23-12, 12:39 PM
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You often have said that it is not a race out there, and with that I would agree. Those who push and squeeze to get ahead gain so little in actual progress, (sometimes nothing) as do those who actively try to "block 'em out".
The incident posted in the OP will never happen to me, not on my bike and not in my car.
The incident posted in the OP will never happen to me, not on my bike and not in my car.
With regard to the OP and the video... what I saw appeared to be a motorist who didn't wait their turn, and a cyclist that also failed to be courteous... with the end result being two buttheads clashing. The cyclist was wrong, but so was the motorist in trying to squeeze out the cyclist.... and the end was not justified.
02-23-12, 12:50 PM
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With regard to the OP and the video... what I saw appeared to be a motorist who didn't wait their turn, and a cyclist that also failed to be courteous... with the end result being two buttheads clashing. The cyclist was wrong, but so was the motorist in trying to squeeze out the cyclist.... and the end was not justified.
