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shelbyfv 12-18-21 05:20 AM

I'm fully vaccinated, do I need a helmet?:foo:

indyfabz 12-18-21 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22343878)
People really should wear helmets during sex.

Like in “Demolition Man.”

livedarklions 12-18-21 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by GhenghisKahn (Post 22343875)
Why is this posted 3 times?


​​​​​First time poster trying to get the post count up but doing it almost the worst way possible? Worst case would've been posting it 5 times.

livedarklions 12-18-21 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by cubewheels (Post 22343887)
Three is better than one or two.

Maybe we should also bring spare helmet (maybe two or three helmets), in case we crash, broke the helmet, we can leave the damaged on the trash bin and wear the back up helmet on the way home.


I just wear the trashbin home. Those things are heavy but tough.

livedarklions 12-18-21 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 22343880)
I'm fully vaccinated, do I need a helmet?:foo:


Have you had your booster crash?

Branko D 12-18-21 06:53 AM

Yes whenever training or going somewhere far or fast on the bike, no for a trip to the local shop or such. If I'm going to my office which is two kilometers away it's 50/50 if I wear the helmet or not.
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dedhed 12-18-21 07:32 AM

https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-...hread-2-a.html

datlas 12-18-21 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by GhenghisKahn (Post 22343875)
Why is this posted 3 times?

Bad news comes in threes.

BillyD 12-18-21 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Atti (Post 22343861)
Having recently fallen off my bike and ending up in hospital with a bleed on the brain and fractured cheekbone, I am so glad I was wearing my bone dome.

It made me think about those who don't/refuse to wear one and I am genuinely interested as to why.

This is not meant to be a thread advocating the use or otherwise, but more to try and understand why you wouldn't and, perhaps more crucially, what would make you change your mind.

Your thread moved from General Cycling to The Helmet Thread 2 in Advocacy & Safety forum.

Branko D 12-18-21 08:42 AM

The energy of a crash goes up with the square of speed. It's highly not surprising that road cyclists going much faster who habitually wear helmets get hospitalized more often than commuters in the Netherlands who don't.

That says nothing about their efficacy because it is not an apples to apples comparison. On a road ride at 32 km/hr versus a commute at 20 km/hr, the kinetic energy absorbed by your body in an impact is
​​​​​2.56 times greater.

To derive the conclusion that helmets are cosmetic from a study which compares apples to oranges is wrong.
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nomadmax 12-18-21 08:47 AM

I have to say thank you to my fellow BF members for the outright belly laughs you give me ;) There are people here who could make a living writing comedy. The laughs I get from here always brighten my day.

3alarmer 02-18-22 11:48 PM

Seattle Bike Helmet Rule Is Dropped Amid Racial Justice Concerns


“The question before us yesterday wasn’t the efficacy of helmets,” said Girmay Zahilay, a board member who is also a member of the King County Council. “The question before us was whether a helmet law that’s enforced by police on balance produces results that outweigh the harm that that law creates.”

epnnf 02-20-22 09:42 AM

mandatory helmet law revoked
 
Read this
My opinion may get me banned

rydabent 02-20-22 10:02 AM

While I always wear my helmet, even when riding my trike, I despise all the little controlling laws like helmet laws.

Juan Foote 02-20-22 10:17 AM

Yup, micromanaging laws like this go against the idea of freedom which this country is supposed to be about. Where I think helmet use is a great idea, particularly in certain situations, there is little reason to force it on anyone willing to take the risk going without one.

Iride01 02-20-22 10:19 AM

Seems like a missed opportunity to give out free helmets to those that can't afford them.

LesterOfPuppets 02-20-22 10:34 AM

The helmet law in Vancouver, WA was used by police to target primarily homeless bicycle riders. Pretty easy to spot a bicycle rider without a helmet, and that makes an easy pretense for the police to harass the rider.

Inusuit 02-20-22 10:55 AM

I wear a helmet except on some backcountry gravel rides. I think it should be a choice, not a mandate.

LesterOfPuppets 02-20-22 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Iride01 (Post 22415409)
Seems like a missed opportunity to give out free helmets to those that can't afford them.

They did have some free helmet giveaways. They also experimented with free loaner helmet stations along the Burke-Gilman Trail.

zandoval 02-20-22 12:19 PM

I don't believe in Mandatory Helmets but I would never, anymore, ride without one.

"The King County Board of Health voted to repeal the helmet mandate because of accusations that the law was disproportionately enforced against people of color and homeless people."

Ok... I'll put in... Maybe this is the Right Execution but for The Wrong Idea. Did I get that right?

Whats odd here is the Health Board is concerned about a law being enforced. So they got rid of the law. Did I get that right?

Just everybody knows that in Seattle it is Unhealthy for people of color and the homeless to ride without a helmet. Naw... I did not get that right...

Am I confused?

livedarklions 02-20-22 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by zandoval (Post 22415561)
I don't believe in Mandatory Helmets but I would never, anymore, ride without one.

"The King County Board of Health voted to repeal the helmet mandate because of accusations that the law was disproportionately enforced against people of color and homeless people."

Ok... I'll put in... Maybe this is the Right Execution but for The Wrong Idea. Did I get that right?

Whats odd here is the Health Board is concerned about a law being enforced. So they got rid of the law. Did I get that right?

Just everybody knows that in Seattle it is Unhealthy for people of color and the homeless to ride without a helmet. Naw... I did not get that right...

Am I confused?


Yes, you are. If the law is being selectively enforced against homeless people and members of certain racial groups, it's obvious that it's primarily serving as a pretext to harass people, and its enforcement has nothing to do with "health". It's also quite reasonable for the Board of Health to conclude that the likelihood of someone getting seriously hurt during a police stop is greater than the likelihood that wearing a helmet will prevent a serious injury, or that mandatory helmet laws don't actually significantly increase helmet use. Since they created the law in the first place, it's definitely their call to determine whether it should be repealed.

livedarklions 02-20-22 01:24 PM

OK, so it's a bit weird that the Board of Health could make helmets mandatory in the first place, but I think that if you read this release, they've obviously come to the conclusion that making helmets more widely available is a better and less risky way of encouraging helmet use:

Seattle and King County update

There's really not a good argument to be made for the proposition that enforcing helmet use should be a police matter.

cb400bill 02-20-22 01:29 PM

Latest helmet thread merged into The Helmet Thread 2

livedarklions 02-21-22 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by cb400bill (Post 22415667)
Latest helmet thread merged into The Helmet Thread 2


That's the thread equivalent of being shoved out of the airlock, right?

Not complaining, mind you. The framing of the OP already made it a bit of a train wreck.


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