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View Poll Results: What Are Your Helmet Wearing Habits?
I've never worn a bike helmet
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I used to wear a helmet, but have stopped
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I've always worn a helmet
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41.60%
I didn't wear a helmet, but now do
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I sometimes wear a helmet depending on the conditions
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Old 07-27-15, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
While that may be true to a certain extent, there is always the unexpected, such as a flat that throws you on the ground, or a car that runs a red light.

No matter what a fantastic bike handler your are there is always the the unexpected like an instant flat, or a car running a red light, or right hooking you.
It's the "what if" that has me wearing a helmet. Not the "it will save my life when I get hit by a car" thought. I can not say for certain that the helmet has saved me from any injury occurring when I have hit the ground, BUT, I can say I haven't had a concussion....yet.
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With having many friends and family members in EMS and fire, I've heard of and seen pedestrians/cyclists that have been hit and had their head split wide open. I prefer to keep my brain in my head and off the pavement.

YMMV...
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Originally Posted by WSWIII
With having many friends and family members in EMS and fire, I've heard of and seen pedestrians/cyclists that have been hit and had their head split wide open. I prefer to keep my brain in my head and off the pavement.

YMMV...
1) So you wear a helmet while walking?
2) A crash which would result in brains on pavement would likely have the same result, helmet or no.
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You can put your sword down now, warrior, the battle has been won.
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Old 07-29-15, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WSWIII
You can put your sword down now, warrior, the battle has been won.
The war still simmers.

People who war wear helmets, too, ya know...
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I suspect my doctor won't recommend that I use PPE for walking for another few decades.
What does your doctor recommend?

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I suspect my doctor won't recommend that I use PPE for walking for another few decades.
What does your doctor recommend?

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My Neurosurgeon say he will have to Remove 1/4 of my skull should I need a Second Brain Surgery.

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My Neurosurgeon say he will have to Remove 1/4 of my skull should I need a Second Brain Surgery.

Yikes!

Hope you're healed up and doing well.
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I don't see Jiminy talking about helmets... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUrOPI5b8wo
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I voted "I've never worn a helmet" but I think if I were to do any trail riding I would want to wear one. I ride defensively and I think this further minimizes the risk of a head injury. I could never feel confident that all risk were removed, but that is not my goal. I feel now like my risk of head injury/death while riding is in reality lower than the risk of either of those things while driving in my car. I hope nothing ever happens to show this is not true. I drive defensively in the same spirit as the way that I ride and have never caused an accident. I have been hit a few times in a car, with a minor injury (concussion, sprained back) once. I assumed that cross-traffic at a 4-way stop would stop and proceeded into the intersection, and got t-boned. I haven't made that assumption since. I haven't crashed or fallen off a bike since I was 12 (I'm 33 now) and have never been hit by anything except bugs and once by my son who was riding behind me and not paying attention. When I was young, I got a lot of skinned knees and elbows, and once my torso got skinned up pretty good when I tried to ramp my mountain bike and went over the bars (my last crash, when I was 12). I do not discourage people from wearing helmets if they want to. That's their business and doesn't affect me in the slightest. My kids have them and wear them sometimes. I tried using one once and it was hot, uncomfortable, and noisy. I don't like that all the local group rides I've seen advertised require helmet usage. Eventually the desire to ride in a group may outweigh the aversion to the helmet, time will tell. I am turned off by religious helmet usage advocacy. I don't think it's fair to legislate helmet usage. The debate seems to me like pointless controversy. I am glad though to be able to share my thoughts/experiences.

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For the hardcore helmet believers: Why not wear a motorcycle helmet which is actually DOT rated for road use (and crashes)?

I do wear a helmet, not because I'm a believer but because my wife demands it. I'd rather wear a helmet (benefit or no) and keep my wife than lose my wife and/or be stuck in traffic.
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Originally Posted by Ubermich
For the hardcore helmet believers: Why not wear a motorcycle helmet which is actually DOT rated for road use (and crashes)?
Overkill for bicycle use, too heavy, not ventilated well enough. Bicycle helmets meet minimum certification standards, same as motorcycle helmets.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
Overkill for bicycle use, too heavy, not ventilated well enough. Bicycle helmets meet minimum certification standards, same as motorcycle helmets.
So what? Safety First!

If a motorcycle helmet just might reduce the severity of a bicycling injury, wearing it at all times when cycling should be well worth any inconvenience and expense for any cyclist who professes to be concerned about such things, eh?
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
So what? Safety First!

If a motorcycle helmet just might reduce the severity of a bicycling injury, wearing it at all times when cycling should be well worth any inconvenience and expense for any cyclist who professes to be concerned about such things, eh?
Well, since motorcycle helmets have not passed bicycle helmet safety standards, and there's no proof they are effective in a cycling situation, it might be quite foolhardy to suggest that cyclists wear them...
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
Well, since motorcycle helmets have not passed bicycle helmet safety standards, and there's no proof they are effective in a cycling situation, it might be quite foolhardy to suggest that cyclists wear them...
Yea, imagine/think of all that extra weight, the kind of extra stresses on the neck, the extra thickness would certainly result in more heads hitting the pavement whereas they would have just misses hitting without a helmet... Certainly it would be more dangerous wearing one than not... Oh, and the chances of heat stroke, that would also be increased.
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Actually the war seems to be against helmets. The war is lead by some the the most fantastic bike handlers the world has ever seen. Some how or other all of them just happen to post on this forum. They claim they are so great, they will never crash. Can we say delusional**********
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Actually the war seems to be against helmets. The war is lead by some the the most fantastic bike handlers the world has ever seen. Some how or other all of them just happen to post on this forum. They claim they are so great, they will never crash. Can we say delusional**********
This is fallacy of the highest possible order.

No one here is anti-helmet; there are none suggesting that others should not wear helmets.

On the other hand, there are those who proselytize helmet use with hyperbolic and factually questionable statements and anecdotes, suggesting that others should wear helmets and that those who don't are, variously, "potential organ donors," not very smart, living and riding dangerously, and valuing their head/brains at as much as they spend for a helmet, i.e. zero. These types who post here should be viciously debunked for the fanatics they are. They claim that wearing a helmet makes them a safer rider and that in the event of a crash, a helmet will save them from any potential TBI, indeed that times they have crashed and landed on their heads, they have been saved from severe brain injury and death. Can we say delusional?!?
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You are so not anti-helmet.

Why, you and several other not anti-helmet advocates have recommended walking helmets, stair helmets, shower helmets....

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My doctor is anti-helmet. She does *NOT* recommended walking helmets, stair helmets, shower helmets....

How about your doctors? Do they recommend walking helmets, stair helmets, shower helmets?

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My Doc said if I need a second brain surgery he will have to remove 1/4 of my skull.
He said he didn't want to do that operation and I agreed.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
This is fallacy of the highest possible order.

No one here is anti-helmet; there are none suggesting that others should not wear helmets.

On the other hand, there are those who proselytize helmet use with hyperbolic and factually questionable statements and anecdotes, suggesting that others should wear helmets and that those who don't are, variously, "potential organ donors," not very smart, living and riding dangerously, and valuing their head/brains at as much as they spend for a helmet, i.e. zero. These types who post here should be viciously debunked for the fanatics they are. They claim that wearing a helmet makes them a safer rider and that in the event of a crash, a helmet will save them from any potential TBI, indeed that times they have crashed and landed on their heads, they have been saved from severe brain injury and death. Can we say delusional?!?
No one here is anti helmet**********

If that were true, there would be no helmet thread.
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All of you should stop wearing helmets now and forevermore. We need more organ donors.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
On the other hand, there are those who ...suggest that others ...are ..."potential organ donors,"...
Originally Posted by bikingshearer
All of you should stop wearing helmets now and forevermore. We need more organ donors.


Originally Posted by rydabent
No one here is anti helmet**********

If that were true, there would be no helmet thread.
There are plenty who are anti-helmet-proselytizing, anti-helmet-hyperbole, anti-helmet-misinformation, but quite few, if any, anti-helmet people posting in this thread. Can you quote anyone who has said "You should not wear a helmet" in this thread...?

Seems like most deemed "anti-helmet" are OK if anyone else wears a helmet, but take issue when people say they should. Also when those same helmeteers overstate the safty-ness of helmets while denigrating those who don't wear helmets.
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This one's for you, yet another helmet saved my life, but cute as a button!

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Originally Posted by mconlonx




There are plenty who are anti-helmet-proselytizing, anti-helmet-hyperbole, anti-helmet-misinformation, but quite few, if any, anti-helmet people posting in this thread. Can you quote anyone who has said "You should not wear a helmet" in this thread...?

Seems like most deemed "anti-helmet" are OK if anyone else wears a helmet, but take issue when people say they should. Also when those same helmeteers overstate the safty-ness of helmets while denigrating those who don't wear helmets.
IMO your continued rant agains helmets, and anyone that supports using helmets constitutes being anti helmet. Look in the mirror.
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