creatine/HMB stack.

LOL. What are you insinuating?

Yeah Id be careful M - back in the u/18 days he was a bloody nutter wulfie...i doubt much has changed...

Nope, that's not it either. Never mind, I'm sure it will make a reappearance at some stage.

You will get there one day ;)

So Grunta (are you sick of that yet??) are you heading up for sundays race?

Just so we're clear ..... it was the info on other sports I was after.

he sure looks like he could be a crazy bogan

There's a lot of wisdom in the following post. This guy is a friggin genius if you ask me.

Pfft! Do I look worried?

Yep. Taking the BBQ and everything.

Ok so who is your pick?? It seems like its worse than picking the winner of the melb cup but I will give it a go...

Karl Menzies or
Alan Davis

Both have huge incentives IMHO. They might want it more. I dont think the hill climb is that long (even though its repetitive) so should faze menzies much.

Who else has a pick?

Too hard for Menzies IMO. The climb is tough. I like Davis.

Gerro for me. McLaughlan to finish inthe top five too.

Yeah, Gerro is a good pick. Good form in the bay crits. I'll have to check out the start list again.

Is Robbie a definite non-starter then?

I reckon Gerrans, in that case.

ya see, I'm the complete opposite; :) I reckon cycling is ALL about being the strongest rider. It's the ultimate. The biggest stars were the 'biggest' time-trialers: Indy, LeMond, Armstrong, Rominger, etc. Unless you're an elite sprinter, a great 'prolguer'/pursuiter, or a great time-trialer/climber, all the rest may as well be domestiques as far as I'm concerned :p

What's the point of being an ok sprinter, like O'Grady, with 500 5th places? :p

Ok time for my daily stupid comment:

Im not a fan of gerrans. I know hes had a bad run with injury but ive been seeing a fair bit of him in interview and so forth and I dont like the way he carries himself. Ive personally got him pegged in the 'mentally no up too win a the big race' category. Hes an awesome athlete and I noticed his legs looking much stronger but there is too much of the 'little fragile school boy' in him for mine.

cue: gerrans to win on sunday and for this post to look ridiculous...:D

Hmmm, fair enough....but back to back overall victories at the Herald Sun Tour would seem to stretch your theory somewhat - for mine at least. OK, the HS tour isn't the TdF, but it's still a big race here in Oz.
He also knows how to ride in the hurtbox bigtime, as demonstrated in his placing at one stage of his debut at the TdF.
(Disclaimer..I am a fan of Gerro, but I won't blow smoke up someone's arse just coz I am a fan - they have to be worthy of it IMO, too):)

This is for you then Oz.....chase down the freds :D http://www.atta.asn.au/ You could roll up on you way home from a gig.

oh it was a stupid comment I made no doubt. :p

Ben "Chocko" Brooks. De Canio grassed him out about having a fridge full of EPO in the Linda McCartney days.

He had memory lapse about the whole thing in SBS's "Insight" program.

Was that the same program that had Ben "I ain't no role model" Johnson? Very superficial treatment of the whole issue IMO.

That would be the show, matagi. Pretty much a waste of an hour it was.

jee, I'd have to turn into a weight weenie to hang out with those guys, wouldn't I, wooden eye? :)

LOL.