How to break a ulock?
04-30-05 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
For the BIC pen thing to work, you have to match the correct pen for a given lock. If you have the match and the skills, you can do it in thirty seconds. But, there are dozens of variations of "round key" locks that have been made over the past three decades.
Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
In the "real" world, crooks don't have the time, energy, or "balls" to sit next to a bike rack, trying pen, after pen, after pen, down on their hands and knees (a correctly installed lock is positioned just 19 inches off the pavement), and meantime looking over their shoulder to make sure the bike's owner is not walking up from behind.
Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
And, that is why the number of PROVEN bike thefts using a BIC pen remains at zero. But like "ghosts", someone will say "Just because no one ever saw it, doesn't mean it's not real". And lots of people do believe in ghosts. That's way it is always easy to find a place to camp in a cemetary at midnight.
It's certainly been proven that BiC pens can open cylindrical keyed locks. In fact should the crook leave the lock it would look to the average beat cop like it was left unlocked. (Somehow I doubt they're going to bring in a CSI on a bike theft case.) So whatever the cop puts in the report is "how it happened" If there really wasn't a problem don't you think a large corporation like Ingersol-Rand who can afford better lawyers than Jacko wouldn't fight it?
Bottom line: If you have an old tubular style key lock made by Kryptonite They will replace it for FREE so long as you have at least one working key for it. You might as well send it in and get a shiny new lock regardless if you're a stick your head in the sand type or not
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04-30-05 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
BiC round Stik worked on all the ones I tested before we sent the entire batch back
If you don't think bikes get stolen check it out, no one appears to pay attention to a bike thief.
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05-01-05 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
...(a correctly installed lock is positioned just 19 inches off the pavement)...
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05-01-05 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
(a correctly installed lock is positioned just 19 inches off the pavement)
A U-lock should go around the rear rim and tire, somewhere inside the rear triangle of the frame. There is no need to loop it around the seat tube as well, because the wheel cannot be pulled through the rear triangle.
Some will object that felons might cut the rear rim and tire to remove the lock. Believe me, this just doesn't happen in the real world. First, this would be a lot of work to steal a frame without a useable rear wheel, the most expensive part of a bike, after the frame. Second, cutting the rear rim is much harder than you might think. Since the rim is under substantial compression due to the tension on the spokes, it would pinch a hacksaw blade tight as soon as it cut partway through. Then there are the wire beads of the tire, also difficult to cut.
Some will object that felons might cut the rear rim and tire to remove the lock. Believe me, this just doesn't happen in the real world. First, this would be a lot of work to steal a frame without a useable rear wheel, the most expensive part of a bike, after the frame. Second, cutting the rear rim is much harder than you might think. Since the rim is under substantial compression due to the tension on the spokes, it would pinch a hacksaw blade tight as soon as it cut partway through. Then there are the wire beads of the tire, also difficult to cut.
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