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09-13-16 | 09:47 AM

jorglueke

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Removing Lock Ring

If I can't find a spanner wrench is it safe to tap and hammer a lock ring? Barring an obvious label how do I determine threading direction? Thanks!

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09-13-16 | 09:48 AM

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Find a BB wrench. You might have success doing it the hammer and chisel way, but you'll chew up the lockring.

09-13-16 | 09:49 AM

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Not sure what you mean by "tap", but I wouldn't hesitate to use a brass punch and a small hammer to remove that lock ring. You should be able to find the starter thread, and determine the proper direction based on it's direction.

09-13-16 | 10:04 AM

Grand Bois

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Counterclockwise.

Always on non-drive side.

VAR lock ring pliers is my favorite tool for the job.

09-13-16 | 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Grand Bois

Counterclockwise.

Always on non-drive side.

VAR lock ring pliers is my favorite tool for the job.

Yes, tell us the brand and year and we'll be able to give you a better guess for the right hand side.

09-13-16 | 10:25 AM

jorglueke

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Yes, tell us the brand and year and we'll be able to give you a better guess for the right hand side.

It's a mid 60's Motobecane. The crankset in there was a Solida 52/42.

09-13-16 | 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jorglueke

It's a mid 60's Motobecane. The crankset in there was a Solida 52/42.

It is probably French and going to be right hand threaded on both sides. (Like Italian)

09-13-16 | 11:15 AM

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Certainly French threaded.

Don't damage the lock ring. French ones are becoming hard to find. So are 60's Motobecanes.

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09-13-16 | 11:24 AM

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Do yourself a favor.

BBB MultiHook Bracket Tool BTL24 | Chain Reaction Cycles

https://www.amazon.com/E-Force-Bicyc...m+bracket+tool

09-13-16 | 11:27 AM

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You can make a lock ring plier by filing a water pump plier.

09-13-16 | 11:31 AM

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Agreed with the above posters. If you actually own the bike and aren't flipping it, there's no reason not to have a hook spanner, as it won't be the last time you use it.

09-13-16 | 12:00 PM

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You can make a lock ring plier by filing a water pump plier.

+1 I love making my own tools.

09-13-16 | 12:38 PM

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Quote:

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You can make a lock ring plier by filing a water pump plier.

Also known as channel locks...

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09-13-16 | 12:40 PM

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Also known as channel locks...

Sorry, ESL here.

09-13-16 | 12:58 PM

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I hate hook spanners!

09-13-16 | 01:23 PM

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Sorry, ESL here.

My late father-in-law, who was a very good auto mechanic, always called them water pump pliers, too. I call them channel locks.

09-13-16 | 01:28 PM

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My late father-in-law, who was a very good auto mechanic, always called them water pump pliers, too. I call them channel locks.

I've never heard that! Channel locks here...

09-13-16 | 01:50 PM

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Do yourself a favor.

BBB MultiHook Bracket Tool BTL24 | Chain Reaction Cycles

https://www.amazon.com/E-Force-Bicyc...m+bracket+tool

Done!

09-13-16 | 01:53 PM

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Nice one reynolds. Now I know what to do with that old set with most of the teeth worn off.

VERY old name- Water pump pliers. I dont think you could use these pliers on a water pump since 1923.

Current "popular" name- Channel locks. Named used from the company that made good ones.

-SP

09-15-16 | 01:42 PM

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My late father-in-law, who was a very good auto mechanic, always called them water pump pliers, too. I call them channel locks.

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I've never heard that! Channel locks here...

Nor have I.

Come to think of it, I've never used any kind of pliers when changing out a water pump...

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09-15-16 | 02:08 PM

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Like Crescent, Channel Locks is a Company name gone generic , like Hoover & Allen ..

09-15-16 | 03:22 PM

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Multi grips here in the shaky isles (NZ), great hack by the way I also dislike hook spanners. Had never heard of the term 'channel lock' until my american cycling wingman pointed out the brand name on my good pair.

09-15-16 | 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by andr0id

It is probably French and going to be right hand threaded on both sides. (Like Italian)

Didn't some 'becanes back then come with Swiss threads?

09-15-16 | 05:46 PM

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I turned up this article which is tangentially relevant (and a fun read)-

What Is a Pin Wrench?