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Old 12-02-17 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
None of the quick links from Sram are supposed to be used for more than one application. They can be used more than once but it's not suggested by Sram. The old versions of the 7, 8, and 9 speed could be opened by hand but that went away a long time ago. Even in 7 speed, Sram has made the link tighter and more difficult to open and close on the initial use. I haven't been able to close or open a new link by hand at my local co-op for the last 5 or more years I've been volunteering there.
I see very few SRAM chains used where I live (expensive and not seem to last longer than cheaper alternatives). I had PC-870 and PC-830 few years back and don't recall whether they required tools or not. I first saw a "use once" warning on their 10 speed chain. They (now) recommend not reusing even the 7-8-9 speed quick links?

KMC ones are more regular and those can be open and closed by hands - 7, 8 speeds especially. Didn't see any single use warnings on those. Checked their FAQ just now and it's written that their "missing link" can be reused 2-3 times?! while an 11 speed model can not be reused. Link.

I wouldn't risk re-using a 10 (or 11) speed quick links, but many people here do it regularly - for cleaning the chain and say they've had no problems - outer plates are thinner, there's less material for locking the quick link and I doubt it's a smart thing, but it seems to work with no problems.

On the other hand, for 7 and 8 speed ones, don't think there's much risk in reusing quick links a dozen times. Did you have any bad experience with those when reused often?
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Old 12-02-17 | 10:33 AM
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Checked their FAQ just now and it's written that their "missing link" can be reused 2-3 times?! while an 11 speed model can not be reused. Link.
See post previous #19.
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Old 12-02-17 | 11:16 AM
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Reusing an 11-speed quick link isn't a problem.

Use a new link when the chain is replaced.
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Old 12-03-17 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SethAZ
I'd bet half the people who use master links but refuse to buy the pliers that work well, make the job braindead simple, and can be had for less than $10 also own just one crescent wrench and use it for everything. "Hey, I've got a crescent wrench, and it works. I don't need to use the right stinking tool for the job. I know owning and using tools is part of being a man, but you know what's even more manly? Not owning tools, and using something else to half-ass every job that comes along!"

Fine. Everyone's going to do what they want, and that's fine. If they want to work on mechanical things but cheap out and not use the tools intended for the job then fine. It's not against the law. I used to be a helicopter mechanic in the Army, and I learned at the ripe old age of 18 while in school for that that one should always use the right tool for the job. Doesn't matter if it's a bike, a car, a helicopter, whatever. Everything goes much easier, and you tend to break fewer things, round off fewer nuts or bolts, and overall just save time and do a better job by just using the right tool for the job.

It's ten bucks for the tool. Just use it.
LOL, My brother working in my shop with every tool needed would grab a hammer, adjustable and vice grips to do the job driving me nuts everytime.

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Old 12-03-17 | 08:09 AM
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Having the right tool for the job makes life a lot easier.

Example-------------when I was working as an IT serviceman, a friend had worked on a production printer all morning. After lunch I went with him and use a special test probe he should have had and fixed the machine in less than 15 minutes.
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Old 12-04-17 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by evan326
Didn't we learn to stop using rocks as tools a few thousand years ago? What happens when you dent the chain, or worse if you miss and hit your bike?!
keyword TAP, not crush.

What happens if you dent the chain, or miss and hit your bike, is that your chain is dented, or your bike is hit by a rock. My bike gets hit by rocks all the time.
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