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Old 12-19-17, 04:24 PM
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Front wheel grinding

Hi all - I changed both tires on my bike a couple of weeks ago and over a week ago I started feeling a grinding from the front tire when I bike. I never felt this with the old tires, so I think it's weird that it should start when I changed the tires. I'm assuming this is a hub issue and getting it overhauled? (no, the brake pads are clear of the rim) Any input is appreciated. How much does this usually run? Thanks.
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Old 12-19-17, 04:46 PM
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Does the tire clear the fork legs and/or fork crown? Did you fit a larger tire and it now rubs?
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Old 12-19-17, 04:48 PM
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got to identify the problem first... tire rub from wider tires maybe? hub too tight? QR or nut axle? fenders? etc...

when was the hub last serviced?
what brand/model of bike?
same about the hub... brand and/or model, if shown?

and guy or not... brands do matter.... they can dictate quality level, and provide clues towards a better diagnosis.

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Old 12-19-17, 06:15 PM
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No, the tire isn't touching the frame. Tire size is actually a bit smaller than what was on there. And I've had that problem before when the back wheel wasn't put in correctly and it was a rubbing sensation, not grinding. Don't know the repair history of the bike as it was bought used. However, I'm willing to bet that hubs have never been lubed going on what I knew of the original owners. The bike is a 90s hybrid - Spec. Crossroads
Maddog- I'm a chicky and I don't see the point of your last statement about brands.
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Old 12-19-17, 06:28 PM
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you have a bike shop anywhere? Any? text does not do it .

take out the wheel ,can you locate it in just the wheel , loosen the brakes so the pads don't touch , any better/?

the idea is.. separate the whole into its parts , to analyze each part. individually..
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Originally Posted by travelinhobo View Post
No, the tire isn't touching the frame. Tire size is actually a bit smaller than what was on there. And I've had that problem before when the back wheel wasn't put in correctly and it was a rubbing sensation, not grinding. Don't know the repair history of the bike as it was bought used. However, I'm willing to bet that hubs have never been lubed going on what I knew of the original owners. The bike is a 90s hybrid - Spec. Crossroads
Maddog- I'm a chicky and I don't see the point of your last statement about brands.
"I'm not a guy, and brand doesn't matter". In your profile below your handle/avatar.... In the case of bikes, a brand name can be a valuable clue to the bike's quality. A person's sex does not figure into what i type here.

lower quality hubs are almost expected to fail... a good hub should last longer. A loose jam nut can become too tight when the nut is tightened on a nut type axle... fenders make nasty noises when bent or not mounted correctly.

all we have is the clues you provide.... can't fault for wanting more clues.

so far, what you've done is pull into a transmission repair place, tell the guy at the counter you want the car fixed because it's making a bad noise, then asked for a free estimate while not allowing the service writer an opportunity to listen for his or her self.

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Originally Posted by travelinhobo View Post
No, the tire isn't touching the frame. Tire size is actually a bit smaller than what was on there. And I've had that problem before when the back wheel wasn't put in correctly and it was a rubbing sensation, not grinding. Don't know the repair history of the bike as it was bought used. However, I'm willing to bet that hubs have never been lubed going on what I knew of the original owners. The bike is a 90s hybrid - Spec. Crossroads
Maddog- I'm a chicky and I don't see the point of your last statement about brands.


Maddog34 was commenting on your signature line.

It's possible that after removing the wheel, the hub adjustment changed because the locknuts were loose.

Cleaning, greasing and adjusting the hub is a good idea- Youtube will have tutorials for this, & not many tools are needed.
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Old 12-19-17, 09:20 PM
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That was rather rude maddog-. I was asking for an opinion and I feel like I'm on a completely different page except for this last response. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by travelinhobo View Post
That was rather rude maddog-. I was asking for an opinion and I feel like I'm on a completely different page except for this last response. Thanks.
wow...

did you check the hub for noise/looseness/roughness yet?

i'm out... good luck to ya.

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Old 12-20-17, 01:46 AM
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Flip the bike over, spin the wheel and move your ear around until you pinpoint the origin of the noise.

I agree that Maddog was being inappropriate, or at least off topic.
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Old 12-20-17, 02:17 AM
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Try change inner tube?

Maybe bad valve tolerance, maybe....
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Old 12-20-17, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kontact View Post
Flip the bike over, spin the wheel and move your ear around until you pinpoint the origin of the noise.

I agree that Maddog was being inappropriate, or at least off topic.
"and guy or not... brands do matter.... they can dictate quality level, and provide clues towards a better diagnosis."

she then posted the brand/model of the bike.

the wheel should be removed from the bike for a better inspection... the moving mass of the tire/rim can mask the notchy-ness... if it's "grinding" though, should be obvious real quick...

the hubs that came on that bike (depending on year of bike) will be low-mid quality, but would have been set up correctly, we'll hope.... they don't last forever though...

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Old 12-20-17, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by maddog34 View Post
"and guy or not... brands do matter.... they can dictate quality level, and provide clues towards a better diagnosis."

she then posted the brand/model of the bike.
Brands don't dictate quality - a Trek Jazz is not going to the be the quality of a no name bike with better components.

Specifics matter, not brands. And even then some awful cheap hubs have lasted really well.



I don't know why you went to the OP's profile - which is about avoiding brand wars and gender BS - and you decide to drag that stuff in and correct her. Just stick to the topic. We don't even know where the noise is coming from.
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Originally Posted by travelinhobo View Post
That was rather rude maddog-. I was asking for an opinion and I feel like I'm on a completely different page except for this last response. Thanks.

In your signature line, are you implying that brands only matter to guys?

If so, then I'd say that you're on a sexist page.
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In your signature line, are you implying that brands only matter to guys?

If so, then I'd say that you're on a sexist page.
Geez, it's a thread about a noisy wheel. What is wrong with you guys? Stop looking for an argument.
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I usually consider maddog's posts to be blunt to the point of rudeness, but, this time, I don't see a problem. If one chooses to highlight one's gender and disdain for brands, then, when gender doesn't matter, but brands do, it's not rude to point that out. Read what was written, not what your anger wanted to read.
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Originally Posted by kevindsingleton View Post
I usually consider maddog's posts to be blunt to the point of rudeness, but, this time, I don't see a problem. If one chooses to highlight one's gender and disdain for brands, then, when gender doesn't matter, but brands do, it's not rude to point that out. Read what was written, not what your anger wanted to read.
This isn't a gender thread, or a brand thread. The OP didn't refuse to reveal information about her bike, she made a profile comment referencing some of the ridiculous brand war behavior often seen on these boards, and it had no direct applicability to a wheel problem.

Now we have mutliple posts about a non-existant issue and even people labeling one of the few women who bothers to come to a predominantly male board in a predominantly male hobby/sport as "sexist".


Does any of this solve the OPs problem? Does any of this make women more welcome on this website or in this sport?

It is one thing to be blunt about the content of the thread, but pulling stuff out of people's profiles just to lecture them is far from helpful.


"Sexist." Idoicy.
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This isn't a gender thread, or a brand thread. The OP didn't refuse to reveal information about her bike, she made a profile comment referencing some of the ridiculous brand war behavior often seen on these boards, and it had no direct applicability to a wheel problem.

Now we have mutliple posts about a non-existant issue and even people labeling one of the few women who bothers to come to a predominantly male board in a predominantly male hobby/sport as "sexist".


Does any of this solve the OPs problem? Does any of this make women more welcome on this website or in this sport?

It is one thing to be blunt about the content of the thread, but pulling stuff out of people's profiles just to lecture them is far from helpful.


"Sexist."
I never used the word, "sexist", and I resent you attaching it to your reply to my post.

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Idoicy.
lol. Karma is a beeyotch.
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Originally Posted by kevindsingleton View Post
I never used the word, "sexist", and I resent you attaching it to your reply to my post.



lol. Karma is a beeyotch.
It's a thread, not a PM. You commented on my post and Maddog's, I commented on Maddog's and Woodcraft's.

Is that really so hard to follow? Do we really need new things to get upset about in the Mechanics forum? Is it possible to get back to the OPs wheel without discussing her profile, location, spelling, etc or the righteousness of off topic lecturing?
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Originally Posted by Kontact View Post
It's a thread, not a PM. You commented on my post and Maddog's, I commented on Maddog's and Woodcraft's.

Is that really so hard to follow? Do we really need new things to get upset about in the Mechanics forum? Is it possible to get back to the OPs wheel without discussing her profile, location, spelling, etc or the righteousness of off topic lecturing?


Maybe you've noticed a pattern here where people post looking for advice,

& within a few posts (8, in this case) are getting down on the folks trying to help them.

I don't think it's gender related, & I don't think women should get a pass because they're women.

If I said something like "I'm not stupid, like women are." in my profile, I wouldn't be surprised

if it got a negative response.
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It's a thread, not a PM. You commented on my post and Maddog's, I commented on Maddog's and Woodcraft's.

Is that really so hard to follow? Do we really need new things to get upset about in the Mechanics forum? Is it possible to get back to the OPs wheel without discussing her profile, location, spelling, etc or the righteousness of off topic lecturing?
If it was a PM, I wouldn't care, because no one would see your attempt to associate my post with the word "sexist".

I didn't quote you, or maddog. Quoting other people matters. You should learn to do it, properly.
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If it was a PM, I wouldn't care, because no one would see your attempt to associate my post with the word "sexist".

I didn't quote you, or maddog. Quoting other people matters. You should learn to do it, properly.
Anyone reading this 22 post thread can clearly see who used the word "sexist".

It wasn't you, if that wasn't abundantly clear.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft View Post
Maybe you've noticed a pattern here where people post looking for advice,

& within a few posts (8, in this case) are getting down on the folks trying to help them.

I don't think it's gender related, & I don't think women should get a pass because they're women.

If I said something like "I'm not stupid, like women are." in my profile, I wouldn't be surprised

if it got a negative response.
But that isn't what happened here. In this thread, Maddog dragged something from outside the thread that didn't relate to the OP into the thread to lecture the OP about something that wasn't an issue.

Did the OP refuse to divulge bike information prior to be lectured? Nope.


Is the opinion that women are less likely to engage in debates about bicycle brand "sexist"? Hardly. Sounds pretty damn accurate to me, nor is the observation insulting to men.

As a male, you don't need to make sure that everyone is held equally accountable. Men are held less accountable, so you have nothing to make up for by not giving women a "pass".

Get off your horse.
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Originally Posted by Kontact View Post
Anyone reading this 22 post thread can clearly see who used the word "sexist".

It wasn't you, if that wasn't abundantly clear.


It wasn't abundantly clear, due to your misuse of quoting. Now, it is. Apology accepted.
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aw heck... i just wanted to find out what bike the noisy hub was on, but didn't want to get into a lengthy discussion on whether "brand names" matter... they do, when you then go look that bike up and respond accordingly with the new info...
Formula hubs, might not even have a brand on them since specialized usually orders them blank... low grade steel cones that get rough after any rust occurs... IF the hubs have "Specialized" printed on them, they tend to be a somewhat higher grade hub... let's hope that's the case, eh?

still ain't heard if Hobo tested the wheel off-bike yet.

feel free to read BS into my responses, it makes great entertainment! ...

pass the popcorn..... no, the plain stuff, that fake butter makes me ill....similar to plastic in molecular form.... ;-)

if someone is offended by mention of their gender, they probably shouldn't mention their gender......

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