Shifting problem
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Shifting problem
This is a stem shift Shimano derailleur 10 speed. No problem shifting fom 5 to 4 to 3 to 2 and back. But shift to 1st and it sticks there. Same with 10-9-8-7-6. Sticks in 6th. Any experience with this problem?
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A note on terms. Some readers might think you have 10 rear cogs, I suspect you have 5 and with the 2 rings you call your system a 10 speed one. Not a big deal but this possible miss speaking can cause some readers to give answers that don't apply. Also describing a gear number ("10, 9, 8, 7, 6") is not truly descriptive. Do you mean the numerical ratio progression or just tjhat you've shifted onto the other chain ring and are running acrosds the 5 rear cogs. Again I think I know what you're trying to describe but others might not. Far more concise is to give the actual cog/ring combos you are in.
The chance of a sticking cable is a good suggestion. Andy
The chance of a sticking cable is a good suggestion. Andy
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A note on terms. Some readers might think you have 10 rear cogs, I suspect you have 5 and with the 2 rings you call your system a 10 speed one. Not a big deal but this possible miss speaking can cause some readers to give answers that don't apply. Also describing a gear number ("10, 9, 8, 7, 6") is not truly descriptive. Do you mean the numerical ratio progression or just tjhat you've shifted onto the other chain ring and are running acrosds the 5 rear cogs. Again I think I know what you're trying to describe but others might not. Far more concise is to give the actual cog/ring combos you are in.
The chance of a sticking cable is a good suggestion. Andy
The chance of a sticking cable is a good suggestion. Andy
Not sure where or when you were born, Andrew, but for USA guys my age, a "10 speed" is pretty standard lingo, And if you aren't familiar with those bikes, this question is probably not for you.
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Kross57- If that your age I have 5 years on you. My first "10 speed" was a Huffy Mark 10, complete with a leather seat and Huret Alvet ders.I most certainly do know what you meant. But I also have been a LBS guy for all my life and take part in these forums for a long time. I know that the industry has moved on from using the total number of possible gear combos as the "count" and onto the rear cog count as the working reference. I also read weekly posters here doing the same, referencing the cog count as the significant descriptor. But it was your use of what I still think is the common reference to which cog/ring combo that really got me. I hear this still after 45 years in the service shop trenches and it still gets me. Any one who has driven a vehicle with a 2 speed transaxle or overdrive add on knows what I speak of.
Glad you figured out the problems. Andy
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I grew up on 10 speeds, but now I have a 10 speed.
To me stem shifters was the give away.
To me stem shifters was the give away.
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Turned out to be a combination of a bent drailleur and a chain that was too short. But thanks anyway.
Not sure where or when you were born, Andrew, but for USA guys my age, a "10 speed" is pretty standard lingo, And if you aren't familiar with those bikes, this question is probably not for you.
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Not sure where or when you were born, Andrew, but for USA guys my age, a "10 speed" is pretty standard lingo, And if you aren't familiar with those bikes, this question is probably not for you.
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Kross57- If that your age I have 5 years on you. My first "10 speed" was a Huffy Mark 10, complete with a leather seat and Huret Alvet ders.I most certainly do know what you meant. But I also have been a LBS guy for all my life and take part in these forums for a long time. I know that the industry has moved on from using the total number of possible gear combos as the "count" and onto the rear cog count as the working reference. I also read weekly posters here doing the same, referencing the cog count as the significant descriptor. But it was your use of what I still think is the common reference to which cog/ring combo that really got me. I hear this still after 45 years in the service shop trenches and it still gets me. Any one who has driven a vehicle with a 2 speed transaxle or overdrive add on knows what I speak of.
Glad you figured out the problems. Andy
Glad you figured out the problems. Andy
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FWIW, from Wikipedia - 10-speed is a 1970s American term describing road racing bicycles (using a derailleur) with 10 total gearing combinations, or speeds.
Apparently, I'm a child of my era.
Apparently, I'm a child of my era.
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You have to realize that folks like you have also developed your own specialized language. For the general public, terms like "LBS", "campy", or "fixie" are unintelligible. If I can figure those out, "10 speed" should be a piece of cake. It's all good. Happy to decode my stuff when I can.
10 speed to refer to 5 speed is now the specialized term seeing as how we have actual ten speed cassettes and even now go to 11 and 12 and 13 with some hacking.
Being the bike has stem mounted shifters it is probably a bike boom bike (as in a mass produced bike in the 70s to keep up with trends but keep quality low) and probably hasn't seen much maintenance. If you haven't replaced the cables/housing I would do that assuming the bike is worth putting in the money. Replacing wear items like cables and housing or brake pads or chain and in your case freewheel will help improve the workings of the bike. Also making sure everything is properly greased or lubed is important as well.
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Local Bike Shop is unintelligible? As far as Campy it is short hand for Campagnolo, a long time maker of bicycle parts, also not a specialized term. "fixie" is not a specialized term but a silly word that people use to try and reference a fixed gear bicycle which is not specialized at all however I refer to it as the opposite of a brokie.
10 speed to refer to 5 speed is now the specialized term seeing as how we have actual ten speed cassettes and even now go to 11 and 12 and 13 with some hacking.
Being the bike has stem mounted shifters it is probably a bike boom bike (as in a mass produced bike in the 70s to keep up with trends but keep quality low) and probably hasn't seen much maintenance. If you haven't replaced the cables/housing I would do that assuming the bike is worth putting in the money. Replacing wear items like cables and housing or brake pads or chain and in your case freewheel will help improve the workings of the bike. Also making sure everything is properly greased or lubed is important as well.
10 speed to refer to 5 speed is now the specialized term seeing as how we have actual ten speed cassettes and even now go to 11 and 12 and 13 with some hacking.
Being the bike has stem mounted shifters it is probably a bike boom bike (as in a mass produced bike in the 70s to keep up with trends but keep quality low) and probably hasn't seen much maintenance. If you haven't replaced the cables/housing I would do that assuming the bike is worth putting in the money. Replacing wear items like cables and housing or brake pads or chain and in your case freewheel will help improve the workings of the bike. Also making sure everything is properly greased or lubed is important as well.
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I suspect that, like many people, kross57 wishes to keep within his understanding range and not embrace the evolving nature of human speech. I suspect he is referring to you being the "one who takes issue with the norm". This way he defines his debating opponent (and as we see in politics defining your opponent works when a "lazy citizenship" is being addressed). A classic technique when one's stand isn't defendable.
This is not to say that kross57 isn't rightful in wishing to keep his view of the bike terms world intact. That's his American right. But when he reaches out and attacks those who have other views is when I take issue. As though he is trying to refuse others what he wants, to be considered correct. Andy
This is not to say that kross57 isn't rightful in wishing to keep his view of the bike terms world intact. That's his American right. But when he reaches out and attacks those who have other views is when I take issue. As though he is trying to refuse others what he wants, to be considered correct. Andy
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It's pretty childish to expect EVERYONE ELSE to live 50 years in the past so you can continue to argue that position.
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I started responding to all this crap, then I remembered I have a life. On any internet forum there are always people who are not there to discuss bikes or fishing rods or surfboards or whatever. They are there to argue. I am not. I am also not here for a grammar lesson.
When you see "kross57" I suggest you guys do what I will now do whenever I see your handles on a post. Stop reading.
And, by the way. Although I appreciate the advice I've gotten here, most of it was wrong.
Have a nice day.
When you see "kross57" I suggest you guys do what I will now do whenever I see your handles on a post. Stop reading.
And, by the way. Although I appreciate the advice I've gotten here, most of it was wrong.
Have a nice day.
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I started responding to all this crap, then I remembered I have a life. On any internet forum there are always people who are not there to discuss bikes or fishing rods or surfboards or whatever. They are there to argue. I am not. I am also not here for a grammar lesson.
When you see "kross57" I suggest you guys do what I will now do whenever I see your handles on a post. Stop reading.
And, by the way. Although I appreciate the advice I've gotten here, most of it was wrong.
Have a nice day.
When you see "kross57" I suggest you guys do what I will now do whenever I see your handles on a post. Stop reading.
And, by the way. Although I appreciate the advice I've gotten here, most of it was wrong.
Have a nice day.
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I would suggest that you go back and review the original question. Some of the "wrong" answers were provoked by insufficient information . People here were doing their level best to help out. The quality of answers often depends on the information in the question
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Turned out to be a combination of a bent drailleur and a chain that was too short. But thanks anyway.
Not sure where or when you were born, Andrew, but for USA guys my age, a "10 speed" is pretty standard lingo, And if you aren't familiar with those bikes, this question is probably not for you.
If you ever have trouble understanding me, just ask. It happens!
Not sure where or when you were born, Andrew, but for USA guys my age, a "10 speed" is pretty standard lingo, And if you aren't familiar with those bikes, this question is probably not for you.
If you ever have trouble understanding me, just ask. It happens!
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True. You, however, are the one who chose to venture into our bailiwick. It's like going to a French language site and insisting that everybody else use English.
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