Dura Ace shifter compatibility
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Dura Ace shifter compatibility
I have a Dura Ace bar end 10 speed indexed shifter (SL BS 79)
Wondering if I can run an older Ultegra or 105 rear derailleur with similar characteristics or if it has to be Dura Ace? A guy told me Dura Ace stuff can be odd.
Thanks- my first look at building a bike with more than one gear ratio!
Wondering if I can run an older Ultegra or 105 rear derailleur with similar characteristics or if it has to be Dura Ace? A guy told me Dura Ace stuff can be odd.
Thanks- my first look at building a bike with more than one gear ratio!
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Those shifters are compatible with older 105 back to 1050, with older Ultegra/600 back to 6208, and all indexed Dura Ace except 740X.
Also all imdexed Deore up to and including 9 speed.
Also all imdexed Deore up to and including 9 speed.
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Ok seeing a lot of RD 5700, 5600, 6700, 6800 for sale. All those Ultegra/ 105 options work you think? It wasn’t shifting my Shimano Zee DR at all but that’s not surprising
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5800 and 6800 are 11 speed components and are not compatible with those shifters.
What is a Shimano Zee DR?
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Zee is a ultra short cage, clutched mtb derailleur. I am happy to share why I came into possession if you are in to long stories. I am learning. Single speed is way simpler
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I'm using 10-speed Dura Ace bar end shift levers (the same SL-BS79) mounted on Gevenalle "brifter" brackets to shift both a 9-speed Ultegra RD-6503 rear derailleur and an 8-speed 105 RD-1050 rear derailleur using Shimano 10-speed cassettes. Both set-ups work extremely well.
Shimano road/MTB shifter/derailleur compatibility was great from 7-speed 105/Ultegra/MTB groups and 9-speed Dura Ace right up until 10-speed MTB and 11-speed everything.
Shimano road/MTB shifter/derailleur compatibility was great from 7-speed 105/Ultegra/MTB groups and 9-speed Dura Ace right up until 10-speed MTB and 11-speed everything.
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I'm using 10-speed Dura Ace bar end shift levers (the same SL-BS79) mounted on Gevenalle "brifter" brackets to shift both a 9-speed Ultegra RD-6503 rear derailleur and an 8-speed 105 RD-1050 rear derailleur using Shimano 10-speed cassettes. Both set-ups work extremely well.
Shimano road/MTB shifter/derailleur compatibility was great from 7-speed 105/Ultegra/MTB groups and 9-speed Dura Ace right up until 10-speed MTB and 11-speed everything.
Shimano road/MTB shifter/derailleur compatibility was great from 7-speed 105/Ultegra/MTB groups and 9-speed Dura Ace right up until 10-speed MTB and 11-speed everything.
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The Zee derailleur you show is based on Shimano's 10 speed MTB geometry, labeled Dyn-Sys. Shimano's road and MTB RD and indexed shifters up to and including 9 speed were for the most part compatible. Starting with 10 speed MTB though, the road shifters were no longer compatible with a MTB RD to shift a 10 speed cassette properly.
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The Zee derailleur you show is based on Shimano's 10 speed MTB geometry, labeled Dyn-Sys. Shimano's road and MTB RD and indexed shifters up to and including 9 speed were for the most part compatible. Starting with 10 speed MTB though, the road shifters were no longer compatible with a MTB RD to shift a 10 speed cassette properly.
My new plan is to ditch the 11-36 cassette, go with a 11-28 cassette and get a nice, older Ultegra, 105, or Dura Ace RD and use my current DA shifter.
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