Denatured Alcohol vs Methyl Hydrate
#51
working on my sandal tan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,629
Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)
Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3871 Post(s)
Liked 2,568 Times
in
1,579 Posts
If you want to use food-grade stuff, it would be hard to do better than this:
#52
Banned
#53
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2952 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times
in
1,417 Posts
#54
Occam's Rotor
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 7,248
Mentioned: 61 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2366 Post(s)
Liked 2,331 Times
in
1,164 Posts
I had to look up methyl hydrate. I had no idea it was a term for methanol.
Denatured alcohol is ethanol that has been deliberately contaminated (often with some methanol) to make it undrinkable (which is not a very good idea if you think about it). This is one of the causes of a high rate of blindness among alcoholics.
Denatured alcohol is ethanol that has been deliberately contaminated (often with some methanol) to make it undrinkable (which is not a very good idea if you think about it). This is one of the causes of a high rate of blindness among alcoholics.
#55
Banned
#56
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2952 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times
in
1,417 Posts
#57
Generally bewildered
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Eastern PA, USA
Posts: 3,037
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 6.9, 1999 LeMond Zurich, 1978 Schwinn Superior
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1152 Post(s)
Liked 341 Times
in
251 Posts
Not advocating anyone drink if they don't want to, but the effect of a drink or two a day are known to be pretty benign in most people.
With respect to acute toxicity, though, drinking any methanol is bad karma, and if you took a half-hour to wash your discs in pure methanol, you might have some issues. So wear gloves if you uses methanol.
To underscore my point about ethanol's lower toxicity, if you do ingest methanol, one element of the standard of care for therapy is to administer 10% ethanol (with 5% dextrose) in water intravenously. The loading dose is about 42 grams ethanol for a 70 kg (154lb) person. This is the same as 3 shots of hard liquor, and it's given iv over an hour, so this will make you very loopy. Then they continue to admin ethanol solution to keep your blood concentration high enough to defuse the effects of formaldehyde and formate. But the approach helps preserve eyesight and perhaps even your life.
After the whole thing was over, I'm betting you have the worst hangover of your life.
#59
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 875
Bikes: custom Cyclery North (Chicago), Schwinn Circuit
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 350 Post(s)
Liked 203 Times
in
118 Posts
Yes, but by this standard, water is a poison. Drinking a lot of water dilutes the salt (sodium and chloride ions) in your blood and extracellular fluid. This salt is key to your muscles and nerves working. Low sodium (hyponatremia) causes intoxication-like symptoms and can even cause death.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ten-fir...ntest-tragedy/
#60
Generally bewildered
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Eastern PA, USA
Posts: 3,037
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 6.9, 1999 LeMond Zurich, 1978 Schwinn Superior
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1152 Post(s)
Liked 341 Times
in
251 Posts
Yup. That's why Everclear is sold as 190 proof. Proof in the US is percent alcohol by volume(ABV), times two. BTW, in Britain, it was 1.821 times ABV, and there other scales. Now most places specify ABV.
#61
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2952 Post(s)
Liked 3,106 Times
in
1,417 Posts
This has happen. Usually it is a contest to see which contestant can drink the most water to win a prize.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ten-fir...ntest-tragedy/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ten-fir...ntest-tragedy/
#62
Advocatus Diaboli
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Wherever I am
Posts: 8,639
Bikes: Merlin Cyrene, Nashbar steel CX
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4737 Post(s)
Liked 1,533 Times
in
1,004 Posts
If Isopropyl Works.. seems easy to find and plenty to share with the rest of your club.
https://www.amazon.com/Mountain-Fall...-1-spons&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Mountain-Fall...-1-spons&psc=1
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
stevepusser
Touring
92
04-22-13 08:52 PM