Is a non-replaceable derailleur hanger a bad thing?
01-07-11 | 07:24 PM
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Wrench hasn't posted on BF since 08-22-08 05:10 PM
Maybe he's lurking and will see your post. Someone else may have info for you, of course.
Maybe he's lurking and will see your post. Someone else may have info for you, of course.
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01-07-11 | 10:10 PM
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All of the older frames didn't have replacable derailleur hangers.
On an older steel frame road frame I have, the rear derailleur found it's way into the spokes due to my carelessness, bending the derailleur hanger, but the derailleur was perfectly fine. I did re-align the derailleur hanger/dropout with a 5 pound sledge hammer.
On an older steel frame road frame I have, the rear derailleur found it's way into the spokes due to my carelessness, bending the derailleur hanger, but the derailleur was perfectly fine. I did re-align the derailleur hanger/dropout with a 5 pound sledge hammer.
01-07-11 | 11:25 PM
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The solidity/crisp shifting argument sounds like total bollocks. And you mean to say if a stick goes up into my rear mech and cracks the hanger or a stay, the Scott people will replace the frame for a nominal price?
I think a replacable hangar is a good idea on an Al or carbon bike.
I think a replacable hangar is a good idea on an Al or carbon bike.
01-08-11 | 03:19 AM
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Scott having non replaceable hangers on carbon frames is an easy way to make money off broken frames. The fact they try to use it as a selling point is shameful.
Also, BF should prompt you if you're bumping a thread more than a year old, IMO.
Also, BF should prompt you if you're bumping a thread more than a year old, IMO.
01-08-11 | 11:08 AM
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For the record, I've bent a lot of steel frame derailleur hangers back using either just my hands or a big Crescent wrench clamped over the derailleur mounting bolt. I don't even take off the rear derailleur for fear of ovalizing the mounting hole.
Never found a use for a hammer that big in a bike shop.
01-09-11 | 01:46 AM
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Seriously? We're worried about people calling each other *****s here?
Sheesh.
...Ha, the plural's not on the list!
Sounds like crap to me too. Countless frames have bolted on hangers with shifting that's crisper than anything thought possible a dozen years ago. The amount of force a normal shift puts on the hanger is nowhere near enough to induce play in the interface if it's bolted on properly.
It doesn't sound like necessarily complete crap to me (shifts to larger cogs can briefly induce quite a bit of strain), but if it's a real effect, it's a 0.5 percenter...
Nice tip. I guess ideally, you'd have a flat little bolt and nut for the job...
Sheesh.
...Ha, the plural's not on the list!
The solidity/crisp shifting argument sounds like total bollocks. And you mean to say if a stick goes up into my rear mech and cracks the hanger or a stay, the Scott people will replace the frame for a nominal price?
I think a replacable hangar is a good idea on an Al or carbon bike.
I think a replacable hangar is a good idea on an Al or carbon bike.
Nice tip. I guess ideally, you'd have a flat little bolt and nut for the job...
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