how exactly does the barrel adjuster work?
#1
how exactly does the barrel adjuster work?
okay, i know that it fine tunes the tension on the shift cable. what i'm foggy about is which way to turn it if i have a shifting problem?
i can get good shifts 99% of the time, but there always seems to be at least one missed shift per ride. the cable is tight and i have the limit screws for the large cog\small cog set properly. i assume the barrel adjuster needs to be fine tuned, but i'm just kinda stabbing around in the dark with it. any advice?
i can get good shifts 99% of the time, but there always seems to be at least one missed shift per ride. the cable is tight and i have the limit screws for the large cog\small cog set properly. i assume the barrel adjuster needs to be fine tuned, but i'm just kinda stabbing around in the dark with it. any advice?
#2
Don't think of it as a tension adjustment. It's really a cable housing length adjustment.
UNscrew it (counter-clockwise) to "lengthen" the housing. This has the indirect effect of "shortening" the cable. This, in effect, is the same as gently pulling on an exposed portion of cable along the frame.
UNscrew it (counter-clockwise) to "lengthen" the housing. This has the indirect effect of "shortening" the cable. This, in effect, is the same as gently pulling on an exposed portion of cable along the frame.
#3
GATC

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,843
Likes: 186
From: south Puget Sound
For my rear derailer, I can twist the barrel adjuster until I see the pulleys line up directly under the gear I intend the bike to be in. So, if I want the bike in the 3rd smallest gear, I turn the barrel adjuster whichever way it takes until I have eyeballed the pulleys directly under that gear. Generally, when it works for one gear, it works for them all. I think for my derailer, turning the adjuster to the left moves the pulleys toward the frame, but I could be wrong. Anwyay, it is very nice visual feedback on what happens when I turn the knob.
edit: this is a barrel adjuster on the derailer, not the one on the shifter which I do find somewhat baffling...
edit: this is a barrel adjuster on the derailer, not the one on the shifter which I do find somewhat baffling...
#4
Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg
edit: this is a barrel adjuster on the derailer, not the one on the shifter which I do find somewhat baffling...
thanks for tips. perhaps i just wasn't turning it enough to notice the alignment change when i was eyeballing it.
#5
Originally Posted by timmhaan
okay, i know that it fine tunes the tension on the shift cable. what i'm foggy about is which way to turn it if i have a shifting problem?
i can get good shifts 99% of the time, but there always seems to be at least one missed shift per ride. the cable is tight and i have the limit screws for the large cog\small cog set properly. i assume the barrel adjuster needs to be fine tuned, but i'm just kinda stabbing around in the dark with it. any advice?
i can get good shifts 99% of the time, but there always seems to be at least one missed shift per ride. the cable is tight and i have the limit screws for the large cog\small cog set properly. i assume the barrel adjuster needs to be fine tuned, but i'm just kinda stabbing around in the dark with it. any advice?
So if it's rattling/delayed when going from small cogs to larger ones, turn counterclockwise (increase cable tension).
Also I usually shift into the smallest cog (least tension on the cable), make the adjustment, then go back to the "troublesome" cogs and test again. 1/4 turn increments, don't do anything drastic.
#6
Member
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
For a standard derailer(non rapid rise)
Loosen the cable so there is plenty of slack when it is on your top gear (7th). Adjust your stop screw so that the derailer is in line with that bottom gear. Now pull the cable tight, and tighten it. Now start pedaling the bike and shift it into 6th, if it does not shift all the way, back the barrel adjuster out so that the cable tightens and it shifts into the next gear, than click it to 5th and do the same procedure up to first gear. Then shift all the way back down to 7, it should shift fine all the way dowen without adjustments, if it doesn't there is a good chance you might need to replace your chain. If it stretch's then the bike will not shift correctly no matter how you adjust it.
Loosen the cable so there is plenty of slack when it is on your top gear (7th). Adjust your stop screw so that the derailer is in line with that bottom gear. Now pull the cable tight, and tighten it. Now start pedaling the bike and shift it into 6th, if it does not shift all the way, back the barrel adjuster out so that the cable tightens and it shifts into the next gear, than click it to 5th and do the same procedure up to first gear. Then shift all the way back down to 7, it should shift fine all the way dowen without adjustments, if it doesn't there is a good chance you might need to replace your chain. If it stretch's then the bike will not shift correctly no matter how you adjust it.
#7
Originally Posted by timmhaan
okay, i know that it fine tunes the tension on the shift cable. what i'm foggy about is which way to turn it if i have a shifting problem?
i can get good shifts 99% of the time, but there always seems to be at least one missed shift per ride. the cable is tight and i have the limit screws for the large cog\small cog set properly. i assume the barrel adjuster needs to be fine tuned, but i'm just kinda stabbing around in the dark with it. any advice?
i can get good shifts 99% of the time, but there always seems to be at least one missed shift per ride. the cable is tight and i have the limit screws for the large cog\small cog set properly. i assume the barrel adjuster needs to be fine tuned, but i'm just kinda stabbing around in the dark with it. any advice?
#8
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,268
Likes: 50
First, make sure there is no slack in the cable at the derailer when it is on the smallest cog. Then remember; trouble shifting to larger cogs, turn it counter clockwise. If the trouble is when shifting to smaller cogs, turn it clockwise. When you are close, small changes (1/16 turn) are in order to final it out. I find it easier to do this final tuning while riding, using the adjuster on the shifter. bk
Last edited by bkaapcke; 07-31-13 at 08:00 AM.
#9
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 5
The barrel adjuster does allow you to microadjust the tension on the cable. However it does not act directly on the cable. The barrel adjuster effectively shortens and lengthens the cable housing between its two fixed points. By changing the cable housing length you are changing the distance the cable runs and the tension on the cable. That tension is translated into repositioning the derailleur. The shifter and brake barrel adjusters work the same. All adjuster I have seen will work against the housing and not the cable.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Correct me if I am wrong.
#10
Senior Curmudgeon
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,856
Likes: 2
From: Directly above the center of the earth
Bikes: Varies by day
Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg
For my rear derailer, I can twist the barrel adjuster until I see the pulleys line up directly under the gear I intend the bike to be in. So, if I want the bike in the 3rd smallest gear, I turn the barrel adjuster whichever way it takes until I have eyeballed the pulleys directly under that gear. Generally, when it works for one gear, it works for them all. I think for my derailer, turning the adjuster to the left moves the pulleys toward the frame, but I could be wrong. Anwyay, it is very nice visual feedback on what happens when I turn the knob.
#11
Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
Don't think of it as a tension adjustment. It's really a cable housing length adjustment.
UNscrew it (counter-clockwise) to "lengthen" the housing. This has the indirect effect of "shortening" the cable. This, in effect, is the same as gently pulling on an exposed portion of cable along the frame.
UNscrew it (counter-clockwise) to "lengthen" the housing. This has the indirect effect of "shortening" the cable. This, in effect, is the same as gently pulling on an exposed portion of cable along the frame.
#13
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by Speedub.Nate
Don't think of it as a tension adjustment. It's really a cable housing length adjustment.
UNscrew it (counter-clockwise) to "lengthen" the housing. This has the indirect effect of "shortening" the cable. This, in effect, is the same as gently pulling on an exposed portion of cable along the frame.
UNscrew it (counter-clockwise) to "lengthen" the housing. This has the indirect effect of "shortening" the cable. This, in effect, is the same as gently pulling on an exposed portion of cable along the frame.
#14
Originally Posted by timmhaan
okay, i know that it fine tunes the tension on the shift cable. what i'm foggy about is which way to turn it if i have a shifting problem?
Last edited by roadfix; 07-07-06 at 10:38 AM.
#15
I happened on this thread while looking for information about how barrel adjusters work.
While the shifter side makes sense, I don't understand how the inner cable is kept in place with the ferrule:

What keeps the inner cable from sliding within the housing?
I only found this diagram, but it has parts I don't have on my bike.
Thank you.
While the shifter side makes sense, I don't understand how the inner cable is kept in place with the ferrule:
What keeps the inner cable from sliding within the housing?
I only found this diagram, but it has parts I don't have on my bike.
Thank you.
#16
I happened on this thread while looking for information about how barrel adjusters work.
While the shifter side makes sense, I don't understand how the inner cable is kept in place with the ferrule:

What keeps the inner cable from sliding within the housing?
I only found this diagram, but it has parts I don't have on my bike.
Thank you.
While the shifter side makes sense, I don't understand how the inner cable is kept in place with the ferrule:
What keeps the inner cable from sliding within the housing?
I only found this diagram, but it has parts I don't have on my bike.
Thank you.
Nothing keeps the cable from moving inside the housing...it HAS to move, or no adjustment would happen. The length of the cable never changes. When you turn an adjuster, any adjuster, doesn't matter where it is, it does the same thing..the length of the housing changes allowing you do make the adjustment.
#18
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
From: Tampa FL
Bikes: 2004 Cannondale R3000, 1972 Raleigh Professional, 1976 Raleigh International 1990 Jamis Explorer, 1989 Bottecchia SLX
If after you adj tension and are still having mis-shift issues you might find that the derailleur hanger may need alignment. Also barrel adjusters can twist or wind up the housing if the ferrule or housing end is jammed in the adjuster resulting in nearly impossible to fine to shifting. Pull back gently on the housing so the barrel turns independently of the housing.
#19
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,563
Likes: 736
From: Melbourne, Oz
Bikes: https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=152015&p=1404231








