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Old 06-29-17, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by capnjonny
No one here has mentioned WD40. I have been using it as a cleaner for a while. Years ago I bought a big sail boat and the roller furling drum was rough I bought a Gallon of WD 40 and used it to flush out the bearings . Worked like a charm and no need to do anything else to flush out the WD40. On my bikes I use it with a small squeeze bottle and a tooth brush to clean derailleurs, and bearing races. It dissolves stubborn caked on dried grease and leaves a waxy surface behind. Unlike paint thinner, which at least here in Ca. is mostly acetone and evaporates quickly. The wd40 doesn't and works well to flush old crud off the bike. When I strip a bike I will wipe the frame down with a wd40 soaked rag. this gets the dried grease off better than simple green.

I buy it by the gallon at Harbor freight. It is more expensive than thinner but with the squeeze bottles I also buy there I don't ever buy it in a spray can any more. They also sell cheap cleaning brushes which work well.
People don't mention WD40 as a cleaner because it isn't. It contains solvents that clean by themselves but it also contains about 20% lubricating oil that you don't need.

Originally Posted by Mudguts
Jonny, I was just talking to my buddy 10grand Dan last night (10 grand rpm's, not $10,000, that should be obvious) about where he gets his kerosene. He told me to just get some wd40, it's almost as good. And wd40 is mostly kerosene anyway. I asked, what are you, a metallurgist? He said, no, honorary gynaecologist. Anyway, the point is, 10grand Dan uses kerosene on his motorcycle chain and says wd40 is almost as good. So as far as I'm concerned, that's the final word as which is the best degreaser.
WD40 does not contain kerosene. The solvent present has a lower boiling point than kerosene. The solvent is also made of smaller molecules that are more volatile and evaporate more quickly and cleanly. The same go for diesel fuel which has a higher boiling point than kerosene and is more oil like.

The solvent in WD40 is mineral spirits (aka paint thinner, naphtha, Stoddard sovent, etc.) which is a very good degreaser. The 20% mineral oil that WD40 contains, which is has an even higher boiling point than diesel fuel, make WD40 a very poor "degreaser" if the point is to remove grease and grease like materials.
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Originally Posted by RealOld
Kerosene wins hands down! Petroleum based, excellent cleaner, etc. No need to worry about explosions, immense fire danger, skin cancer, lung cancer, etc. Just relax and use it!
I would go with kerosine too ... don't actually know what simple green is, but kerosine gets the job done for me very well - especially for degreasing, where wd-40 does not excell ...
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Originally Posted by Jynx
What I want to know is where are you finding Kerosene for that price. I think the last time I checked a gallon was around $8 (In a bottle as I don't know of any gas stations that have a kerosene pump anymore).
Check propane dealers. Bulk K1 should be $3-4 a gallon.

Or just use diesel. Much easier to find in bulk. My Redstone kero heater is the only reason I keep up with K1 sources at all, and sometimes I use diesel there anyway. Smells a little stronger, but not worried about fume buildup since the house leaks air like a sieve anyway.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Do you mean 'organic' as in composed of carbon based molecules as a chemist would refer to them or 'organic' as in the colloquial 'It's organic so it doesn't contain chemicals' statement? Assuming that something won't react because it composed of organic chemicals flies in the face of a couple of hundred years of chemical science. Assuming that it won't react because it's 'organic' and doesn't contain chemicals is silly because all substances on the face of this planet...as well as any other planet, star, rock, stray piece of space dust, etc...can be made of nothing but chemicals.
But it's got electrolytes. That's what bikes crave.

Let's just skip all the half measures and agree that perchloric acid is the best chain solvent reasonably available.
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